Posted on 07/12/2025 9:48:01 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
One of Donald Trump’s popular campaign promises was to work on releasing the Jeffrey Epstein files, so we could see how many people still in power were clients of the infamous child trafficker. In a new mystifying message, Trump not only supported his attorney general in not releasing the files; he bashed his own base.
Voters love Trump for defying the Deep State, for promising to drain the swamp, for vowing to track down criminals — especially child abusers. He was elected on promises of enforcing the law against criminals. Now Attorney General Pam Bondi is claiming that the Epstein files are just a myth, even though she had previously claimed they were sitting on her desk (apparently Epstein’s guilty plea to child prostitution and his partner Ghislaine Maxwell’s 20-year prison sentence for conspiring with him to abuse minors were accidents). The truly shocking part is that Trump is backing Bondi. We saw this sort of debacle play out with Richard Nixon. Trump should not make the same mistake.
Furious MAGA voters expected Trump to ask Bondi to resign, or at least to rebuke her and remind her of his campaign promise—one that many voters were enthused about—because child exploitation by elites is a topic that riles most Americans, especially since many of the victims and elites in this case are still alive. Instead of reading the room, figuratively speaking, and sitting Bondi down for a talk, Trump posted a message on Truth Social that contradicts his former comments and has already garnered backlash, with both X and Truth Social exploding as Trump voters decried the message.
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” there is still zero evidence “
If they haven’t release any information how would you know that? Are you part of the investigation?
Interesting how Trump suddenly got cold feet when he thought the Epstein files would be released.
His actions speaks volumes.
A very close friend of ours was a real estate attorney and did legal work for a well known business associate of Epstein. He has had a few completely legitimate business phone conversations with Epstein. He is a terrific family man, a top attorney, never been on Epstein’s plane or island, has never met him. He is now retired and is pretty sure his name and number are somewhere in Epstein’s list, as are probably hundreds of other business contacts. So should he be considered a “client”? Should his stellar reputation and career be tarnished? Should his family name that his sons and grandsons also have be associated with Epstein?
FYI Flight logs of VIP passengers on Epstein’s Orgy Express airliner: “BREAKING: THE FULL UNREDACTED EPSTEIN FLIGHT LOGS HAVE BEEN RELEASED — EVERY. SINGLE. PAGE.
No redactions. No missing entries. The entire flight manifest is now PUBLIC.
They swore we’d never see this. They buried the truth.
But we’re NOT letting this story die.
https://x.com/i/status/1943971087944990782
DANG!: THE FULL UNREDACTED EPSTEIN “LITTLE BLACK BOOK” IS HERE — EVERY. SINGLE. PAGE.😱
No names blacked out. No more secrets. The entire address book that terrified the elites is now public.
https://x.com/i/status/1943922040634806718
“”Voters are pretty stupid then. If the lists show Democrats, well not much surprise. It may involve POTUS or other important figures. That only hurts us. His private life is him and God and his family.
The focus should be on fair elections, economy, border.””
A month ago, I would have agreed with you 100%. However, the latest 180 degree turn on this issue by the DOJ & FBI puts an entirely different slant on it. I emphasized border control and national security back then as the main priority, economy second, then election fraud and other issues.
But the problem we have now is loss or lack of faith and trust due to this flip flop. That trust MUST be restored or we will lose the next elections. If you have a valid argument to make against that, please do make that argument.
Voters on our side... ie MAGA... want accountability. That hasn’t changed. That doesn’t make them stupid. It makes them value truth and justice. Without truth and justice, you have just another corrupt, banana republic cesspool. Something we anti-Marxists have always wanted to avoid.
This post deserves its own thread.
I have voted Trump 3x and supported him since 2015 when he started running for President. Since I am part of the Trump base. I will go along with whatever he wants on Epstein, JFK and other full disclosures for the conspiracy experts crowd. Trump is doing great on the border and other matters. If Trump say Epstein is a distraction, then fine by me.
There are many MAGA who would not lift w finger for Israel while Trump took out the Iranian nuclear facilities. They hated that Trump intervention. They also think Israel has too much influence in the USA. These are the MAGA who demand Epstein disclosure hoping that Israel and Mossad will get all the blame, get tarred and feathered.
“”Trump is still keeping more promises than any Pres Ive ever seen. Maybe people should look at things in relative terms. The leftist media has begun baiting the right into this silly circular logic….even though those files are probably chock full of lefties…. But just to capitalize on right wing “chaos” , they will beat this horse dead and use Epstein dead enders as their sources.””
I take it that you are advocating that everyone on Trump’s side just drop the entire issue and, pardon the expression, move the hell on. If so, how do you propose to restore the trust that has been lost due to this flip flop by the DOJ?
Yes, Trump has followed thru on border security and restoring the US military... my main priorities. But NOT losing the next two elections to the commies is also a priority... a major one. And an awful lot of Trump supporters are now in limbo over this “dead horse, irrelevant” issue. Trust must be restored to these voters/supporters. If Trump can’t release the info previously promised, he should address the nation with some truth and explain ‘why’.
“”These are the MAGA who demand Epstein disclosure hoping that Israel and Mossad will get all the blame, get tarred and feathered.””
Good point. But... I doubt that there are that many Trump supporters that are also anti-Israel. That sounds more like deep state plants to me, and I suspect that they may just be “pretending”. Most of us on the right are in full support of Netanyahu and Israel as Christians, if not merely as Trump supporters.
I am relieved to say, and comforted to say, that yes, many people do care about Epstein johns coming to justice.
FR has a disturbing cotillion of posters who think teenagers want it and that statutory rape is a feminist joke (boys of course get similarly abused). Thankfully at least some of us realize these girls did not “want it” in the adult sense of the word, were being manipulated and ruined, with neglectful or worse parents — and irreparably harmed.
Lets put it this way…. My vote for Trump was not cast for the Epstein files to be exposed. My families health, prosperity and overall well being does not ride on it. Was the man scum? It would seem. Hes dead now. Are many of his associates scum… probably. I already assume this. Most of Hollywood and the vast majority politicians are scumbags. This sadly is life. I dont hold my breath waiting for folks to be held accountable, its a fools errand. There are clearly bigger fish to fry right now. Just a little perspective is what I advocate for
“”Lets put it this way…. My vote for Trump was not cast for the Epstein files to be exposed. My families health, prosperity and overall well being does not ride on it.””
Same here. Totally agreed. I have posted that release of those “files” were probably dead last on my list of priorities.
“”Was the man scum? It would seem. Hes dead now. Are many of his associates scum… probably. I already assume this. Most of Hollywood and the vast majority politicians are scumbags. This sadly is life.””
Absolutely. I concur.
“”I dont hold my breath waiting for folks to be held accountable, its a fools errand. There are clearly bigger fish to fry right now. Just a little perspective is what I advocate for””
I don’t either (hold my breath for that accountability). But... if you are looking around at the comments around the net, many Trump supporters are losing trust in this administration due to this flip flop.
My main point is... this issue, that being that Trump can’t release those files to the public for whatever reason, must be addressed and explained by Trump. I get it that there are reasons ‘why’ for the flip flop. But many are seeing it as the same gaslighting the OBiden administration (and every Democrat administration) has engaged in.
All I’m saying here is that trust must be restored. And yes, this whole thing is being blown up and used by the radical left as a tool to ensure that they win the next two (or more) elections. Let’s not let them succeed in that effort.
The Clintons, for two examples, have been notorious in and out of office and totally untouchable. Their supporters love this about them, while those who vote against them seethe at how they flaunt the law and dis those who care about justice.
The Epstein episodes, which Bill Clinton was a part of, were some of the most watched and most vile in our American political soap opera and many Trump voters believed a President Trump would bring light to this darkness and clean up the mess.
We want to believe he is one of us and not one of “them”, but his statements about Epstein, Bondi and those who want to know the truth are deeply disappointing.
Then a few low-level Republican operatives were charged with having burglarized DNC headquarters at Watergate.
Nixon not only didn’t come clean, he endeavored to sweep everything under the rug, eventually characterizing it as nothing more than a “third-rate burglary.”
The Democrats and their media seized on the opportunity of course; it became all Watergate all the time, and everything snowballed into a scandal large enough to take down Nixon’s presidency.
I’m fearful that PDJT’s handling of Epstein, justifiable or not, carries the same potential.
I strongly support him in making him STAND for the TRUTH on this very very critical over promise, under performance by a minion either too stupid to make unfounded commitments or believing her inherited minions at AG office and Justice who have lied to her as well.
throw her out for mis reading the information she had, and misrepresenting what she was able to do with it.
I am a real SINNER and if I were trump I would never let that information out, because I would use it to strong arm people in government to ‘support’ me on my agenda.
And then after I had my political way with them... I would leak that information, and ruin whatever was left of their lives. make them the poster children for resisting me... Like I said, however that is just me. A SINNER.
Whenever someone says to me “truthfully this or that” I know that they are probably feeding me a line... and CANNOT be trusted. Pamela lied about what she had, the extent of the data she had, what she understood... and now trump has said ‘no we don’t’ and ‘do not pick on the pretty blonde girl’
imagine that, a pretty girl who lies.
what we really need is a hostile aggressive ‘inquisitor-confessor’ of medieval character. Bondi however is deep state, and many of us have always perceived her as such, even when she was AG in Florida.
When Matt Gates was drummed out of the running... we knew that the ‘fix’ was in... by the selection of Bondi. She will protect her real bosses in the old GOP... like Linda Graham and Mr. Thune.
What investigation?
The alleged victims of the Epstein Client List have not filed one criminal complaint in the last 20 years.
During the same time period, dozens of women filed successful criminal complaints against Epstein and Maxwell.
Just one Epstein Client List victim filed one civil law suit in the last 20 years. She settled out of court.
During the same time period, dozens of women filed successful civil law suits against Epstein and Maxwell.
Why does that make sense to you if there really are Epstein Client List victims?
Epstein and Maxwell victims are assertive and proactive?
Epstein Client List victims are timid and helpless?
What? Why would that happen?
Bottom Line - Epstein Client List victims do not exist.
That was 100% idiocy.
So Ghislaine Maxwell went to prison for trafficking to no one?
“During the same time period, dozens of women filed successful civil law suits against Epstein and Maxwell.”
By your own admissions there was activity, but you also claim there was no activity. You contradicted your own claims.
Epstein was “...charged with sex trafficking of minors and conspiracy to commit sex trafficking of minors. “
Yet, you claim there is no list. He trafficked children to no one?
You are an idiot, but we are not.
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