Posted on 06/20/2025 8:46:26 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
Neocons like Mark Levin always start screeching ‘appeasement’ to try to shame opponents of forever wars.
Bad World War II analogies appear to have become a dime a dozen in today’s political discourse. In just the past few months, I’ve excoriated Russell Moore for his ridiculous reference to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact in response to President Donald Trump’s push toward a peaceful resolution of the war in Ukraine and pilloried Max Boot’s baffling comparison of Ukraine’s recent attack on Russia’s bomber fleet to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.
Now, Mark Levin, in his zealous crusade to push the United States into directly joining Israel’s strikes against Iran, has invoked the most tired and most misconstrued talking point related to the Second World War: appeasement.
Levin’s screed (it’s far too light on substance to be called an op-ed), titled “Isolationism is the same as appeasement — and it’s keeping Trump, Netanyahu from transforming the Middle East,” does little more than launch ad hominem attacks and provide a masterclass in projection. It’s amazing to read sentences like these: “They’re too self-righteous in their ignorance to realize how absurd they sound. … In fact, they’re so blind and self-important that they don’t see the new foreign policy taking place in real time, right in front of their eyes!” and not even detect even a hint of self-awareness from a man who is advocating for the United States to become stuck in yet another Middle East quagmire.
Remember how all those other times our attempts to “transform” the Muslim world worked out so well?
Afraid that his readers won’t be convinced by merely insulting the intelligence...
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Anyone voting with the Dems has lost any moral authority to talk about appeasement.
The reason for having power is to use it. Trump is not like that but you can’t convince the left. It’s nice to be the most powerful but enemies will still challenge us.
Think short mans complex. These little guys feel a need talk big. It’s up to the stronger to keep them in line.
If you didn’t support bankrupting us (further) in Ukraine, you were a commie Putin-lover.
Now, anyone not supporting American boots on the ground in Iran’s mountains (sound familiar?) you are a Khomaniac anti-semite.
Not our problem.
The cold war demonstrated that when confronted with an implacable enemy that has inherent weakness, instabilty and cultural contradictions, containment was an excellent strategy. Eventually the inherently unstable enemy collapsed. Of course due diligence, military might and the ability to respond decisively to any real attacks must always be our option. Endless wars and entanglements debilitate and do not achieve national interest goals.
It’s our problem when a radical Islamic regime can put a nuclear bomb on a container ship and sail it into any US port undetected , and then blackmail us …
The Bannonites and Tuckered Out Crowd think 1 Bombing Run to destroy
1 Nuke Site Buried 300 Feet Deep will cause a Forever War are simply wrong.
Trump will not allow Iran to have Nukes.
He has said it over and over again.
What kind of deal can be worked out that would protect Nuke Inspectors
from being held Hostage by Iran?
There is no deal that can guarantee the safety of Nuke Inspectors in Iran.
World War II was well before my time. But from what I’ve learned from history, American public opinion was very divided on us getting involved. This was before Pearl Harbor. After Pearl Harbor, public support shifted . The declaration of war by Congress was almost a unanimous vote.
So if we want to draw World War II analogies, we are still in the time period before Pearl Harbor.
It was about 85% to 15% against interventionism.
And there were a lot of big names in that 85%; future president John F Kennedy was in that mix.
Oh, look, FR’s KGB club doesn’t want America beating up on KGB/Iran
Neocon is a term coined by Michael Harrington, a founding member of the Democratic Socialists of America, and its most influential early leader.
KGB gave you shitty primary material to use in your postings. It really points you out as communist trained
It is not blackmail to recognize Iran declared war of the USA in 1979 and have been terrorizing, sabotaging and killings Americans ever since. It is time to end the war once and for all.
Those two brain cells of yours are serving you well.
“Oh, look, FR’s KGB club doesn’t want America beating up on KGB/Iran”
Are you two years old?
Exactly, and Charles Lindbergh caught hell for daring to name the 15% clamoring for war.
Want to know who embraced the term and boasted of it — until they didn’t?
Commentary magazine, published by the American Jewish Committee. At the top of the masthead the banner ran in every issue: “The Home of Neoconservatism”. And yeah, did they ever push the Iraq war and nation building.
Neocon Freepers in the year 2002: "If you don't want to take out Saddam then you are PRO-TERRORIST!!!!"
I don't know about Neocon, but Neoconservative was coined by Irving Kristol, who proudly called himself one and used it in the title of many of his books.
Of course you’d object. You’d support KGB/Saddam, KGB/Assad, KGB/Khamenei and KGB/Putin
KGB/Cuba already has a Successful revolution and KGB state. Why don’t you not-be-a-PUNK and MOVE THERE? Or any other KGB/@##$@#-hole?
You won’t! Cuz you’re a MORAL FRAUD and Phoney.
You stand for nothing, you risk nothing, you ridicule everything done against dictatorships and aggression against people
I wonder if there was any war America fought that such isolationists would not have opposed. And what they imagine the the world would look like if American was strict isolationists and withdrew all forces in the world, and what threats it would face (would China be controlling the S. China sea, and much of Africa, and Iran, the Strait of Hormuz, etc. Russia controlling Ukraine and more)?
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