Posted on 06/13/2025 6:36:01 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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I urge President Trump to stay the course, keep putting America first, and to not join in any war between other countries. Every American should hope and pray for peace.
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Trump appears to be going full Bush this week: Pulling us into a new war in the Middle East while announcing amnesty without calling it amnesty. 2000s, here we come again!
“Death to America!”, with nukes.
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…and an ICBM program to match. Israel did this because it is much more immediately threatened by the Mad Mullahs, but make no mistake - we are next (or, we WERE next, thanks to Israel). No, Iran wouldn’t have tried to nuke us next week, but once they had even one deliverable nuke, no one would try to bring down that odious regime. Then terrorism would explode worldwide. Iran also promised to give its proxies nukes - do you want to live in THAT world? Slowly but surely Iran’s power would grow…and then we would have woken up one day to being nuked in dozens of cities. They know that the West is weak (nearly half the population supports the party of appeasement that hates its own country, after all), and they would believe (as did the Japanese) that one massive attack would destroy our will to oppose them..and maybe in this world it would, this generation is nowhere near as tough as the one which fought WW2, and EVERYONE knows it.
Just like we owe Israel a thank you for destroying Saddam’s nuke program, so we owe them one for this (AND continued support to finish the job). No, I don’t want American troops of any uniform directly involved (unless Iran attacks our bases and personnel) and, no, we don’t have to approve of or support every policy that Israel has, but on THIS ISSUE we should steadfastly back them (as should Europe) because we are direct beneficiaries.
If this is true and Israel’s war with Iran is back and forth and continues, and Trump backs off on deportations, lets in lots of Chinese students, etc, 2026 is lost:
“The great negotiator only engaged in deception as he prepared an attack on Iran”
https://x.com/Glenn_Diesen/status/1933512634852127139
They’ve never even heard of his Savak shocking the nuts off people or his being an absolute monarch… And they’ve never heard of operation Ajax where we installed him, on behalf of the British. 75 years of fu@kery, but we’re sure this time that just one more manipulation will get it right.
I do appreciate the anti-semites outing themselves.
They have gotten more clever in their arguments.
Although this Lindburg approach is well-trodden.
Of course Mohammed is a false prophet. But that doesn’t seem to motivate us to overthrow the government of Saudi Arabia. You know, that country that attacked us on 9/11. It doesn’t seem to motivate us to not make business deals with Isis in Syria now. And it doesn’t seem to motivate us to not have Islamic chaplains in our military. But yes, he’s false prophet. Most definitely
Helping blow up Iran is putting the USA’s interest first.
We’re the “Big Satan” to them. Israel is just the minor leagues.
I really want to see Karg Island go up in a ball of fire.
Will you be able to see it from your house?
Is your roof shaking?
I expect Ukraine to offer a reasonable long-term peace proposal to Russia.
A reasonable peace proposal would include clauses requiring:
1. no advance past front lines as of a listed date
2. a neutral Ukraine
3. no third-party military force in Ukraine
4. no long-range (>200km?) missiles in Ukraine
5. no nuclear weapons, nuclear weapons technology development, U-235 enrichment, plutonium concentration or gain of function research by or in Ukraine
6. the Russian language to be an official language of Ukraine
7. Russian ethnics and Russian speakers in all territory governed by Ukraine to have Ukrainian legal protection as great as the anti-discrimination protections extended to negroes by the domestic governments of the USA and fully equal Ukraine treaty civilian rights
8. no subversive or paramilitary activity by either side.
The peace proposal must also provide that the US, EU and UK are to return assets to the Russian Federation, Russian Federation companies and individuals (plus a fair return on financial assets) gradually over about 120 months provided that in each such month the Russian Federation and pro-Russian Federation people abide by the terms of the proposal.
Such a peace proposal would have to be agreed to and ratified by the US Senate and the EU and UK Parliaments as well as the Ukrainian Duma.
Russian Federation failure to accept a reasonable peace proposal put forth by Ukraine would justify further support of Ukrainian defensive forces by the US, EU and UK.
Some wise person (I forget who) once said one of America’s problems is that we won WW2 too completely. It made us think we could do anything.
Interfere with countries all over the globe? Sure, why not? We’re America. We’re sure to win. Except that we don’t win. All we do is muck things up.
You, like many other people, completely misunderstand the concept of “chosen.” Sometimes that’s deliberate, in an attempt to justify hating Jews, and sometimes it isn’t. I don’t know you, so I can’t judge you on this regard. But I can and will correct your error WRT this concept.
Israel (the people, commonly referred to as Jews today) was chosen to bring God’s word to the rest of humanity. Do it right, they were told, and you’ll have His protection and blessings; knowingly do it wrong and…well, the Bible spells out the punishments. This concept is ABSOLUTELY NOT about being inherently better than others, it is about leading by example (and also the consequences of what failing to do so entail). Anyone who understands this concept certainly knows that God loves ALL of His children (figuratively speaking) to follow the moral path that He set out for them, but He has been using (with appropriate rewards and punishments) the Jews as a people to bring that message to the rest of Humanity.
Check it out, honestly, to verify what I have said here. But you are now informed of your erroneous position. Continuing to hold and espouse that position when you have knowledge to the contrary…well, I just don’t think that God will look kindly upon that - but that’s my opinion, I don’t presume to speak for Him. But I urge you to do the right thing.
There will be no war with Iran, unless Iran hits us.
The United States put up numerous in theater air assets (RC-135, E-3B etc)prior to and during the Israeli operation. We also positioned a carrier in the Arabian sea (CVN-70) prior to attack.
The US is a tad too large and too vulnerable to pretend to be a big Switzerland.
The general consequences of US withdrawal from the world will be more wars, not less, as larger and middle weight powers launch wars to defend themselves or attack others for perceived strategic gain.
That's in fact what we are already seeing in Ukraine and Israel and Iran.
The problem, of course, is that one or more of these conflicts will go out of control and the US, despite it's "not meddling," will get dragged in like 1917 or get attacked again like it was in 1941.
If the carriers had been at Pearl Harbor and if Heisenberg hadn't screwed up his reactor experiments, we'd be living in the world of The Man in the High Castle.
IMHO, a more judicious use of force and some workable alliances than we have seen recently would be preferable to relying on the goodwill of other nations and historical accident for our national existence.
“MAGA don’t support (below) or letting in 280-500k Chinese students”
Having them sit in classrooms is hardly an increased risk.
Many lectures are placed online. Textbooks can be bought easily.
Patents are readily available online.
The Red Chinese were able to build a nuclear weapon 60 years ago.
Trump either walked that back or made it clear yesterday, that ALL of the illegals must go.
“Iran has been “days away from developing nukes” for more than 30 years.”
Iran had and still has all it needs to build bombs.
All Iran has to do is to put the pieces together.
At most the Israeli action blocks Iran from building more than a dozen or so bombs.
Yes. Of course.
I proudly proclaim that Christ is King! HE is risen! I am an Appalachian Christian. (even though jews on FR say that means I am "white trailer park trash")
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4312801/posts?page=29#29
Now your turn. Answer my questions.
“we are already seeing in Ukraine”
Take a look at the Institute for the Study of War daily summaries.
Russian forces are blasting the front lines of Ukraine and systematically killing off Ukrainian fighting men.
Ukraine probably can with US help and guidance make peace with the Russian Federation in 2025.
Ukraine might not be able to hold out until 2027.
The time for “the art of the deal” is now.
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