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There’s No Point In Arguing With Democrats About Trump
https://thefederalist.com/ ^ | June 10, 2025 | J.C. Bourque

Posted on 06/10/2025 10:22:14 AM PDT by bitt

There is not a single fact, much less a body of them, that you and a lefty can agree upon to start a conversation about The Orange Man.

Consuming biased media distorts what Democrats believe drives and informs conservatives. This effect does not go in the other direction. Everything we know about Democrats spews, ceaselessly, from their lips and major media. Everything they think they know about us comes from media propaganda, out-of-context video clips, and other loony bins who don’t speak for the right.

This misrepresentation results in statements to Donald Trump supporters like, “I guess you’re OK with Trump turning the country into a fascist dictatorship.” In addition to inviting a debate about Trump’s intentions, this challenges you to defend how you can be such a blind, gullible idiot unable to see the obvious truth. See: “Do you still beat your wife?”

Recently, a left-leaning friend proposed we attempt a civil conversation, in writing, about several subjects including climate change (yes, I broke my own rule). The conversation was civil and respectful, but we could not agree on any scientific expert or study that we could use as a common starting point. So, the conversation went nowhere concerning changing minds or openness to new information by either side.

The science is settled, and arguing that “settled science” is an oxymoron will get you nowhere. You’re a denier. There is only one rightthink.

Leftist Don’t Actually Want a Conversation Trump haters may demand from you, the hapless Trumpanzee, an explanation for how you can be so stupid. They call it a “conversation,” but it’s a cross-examination.

The lefty will start with some variant of: “How could you vote for a sexist, racist, homophobic, convicted rapist who is guilty of 473 felonies?”

You could respond, “Why did you vote for a vacuous, incoherent, babbling drunken whore?” But this will not work. Only Trump’s, and your, shortcomings are on the docket. So don’t answer.

After becoming frustrated at your insolence, some will demand to know why you won’t “defend” your decision. Here’s the answer: “Because I am not a defendant, counselor.”

Lefties seem to feel entitled to an explanation for your decision-making, while assuming they require none for theirs, because they are so obviously right. Another tack they take is, “If we can’t talk about this, how do we solve the problem?” What problem? My guy’s in, doing exactly what I elected him to do.

Here’s the root cause (lefties love looking for root causes) of the problem communicating across party lines: There is not a single fact, much less a body of them, that you and a lefty can agree upon to start a conversation about The Orange Man. None. That’s why it can’t happen.

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1 posted on 06/10/2025 10:22:14 AM PDT by bitt
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To: null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; bgill; bitt; ...

GREAT ARTICLE

https://thefederalist.com/2025/06/10/theres-no-point-in-arguing-with-democrats-about-trump/


2 posted on 06/10/2025 10:22:46 AM PDT by bitt (<img src=' 'width=30%>)
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To: bitt

There’s No Point In Arguing With Democrats. Period.


3 posted on 06/10/2025 10:23:57 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: bitt
HEY DEMOCRATS THE GROUP THAT VOTED IN THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE FOR TRUMP WAS NATIVE AMERICAN INDIAN MEN.

When you democrats figure out why it'll be too late to save the midterms.

4 posted on 06/10/2025 10:24:32 AM PDT by GOPJ (What if stupidity isn’t about intelligence at all, but about surrendering the will to think?Bonhoeff)
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To: bitt

There’s no point arguing with Socialist Democrats about ANYTHING. They are anti-America, Constitution-hating thugs.

I’ll go read the article, now. Thanks for posting! :)


5 posted on 06/10/2025 10:25:45 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: bitt

Tell them we have Trump because of them .
They supported un Constitutional government spending and growth for decades .
Yes you my liberal friend put Mr Trump into office.


6 posted on 06/10/2025 10:29:19 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (“I don’t really care, Margaret.”)
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To: bitt

JUST BECAUSE YOU COMPLY DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE LEFT WILL LEAVE YOU ALONE


7 posted on 06/10/2025 10:30:08 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“There’s no point arguing with Socialist Democrats about ANYTHING. They are anti-America, Constitution-hating thugs.”

Yep, that’s them. I would add communist / socialist. There’s no size limit to government that they would ever embrace. They truly believe government can supply everything we need and want. They are really idiots.

And they want zero national borders. They want to erase the very concept of a United States of America.


8 posted on 06/10/2025 10:30:26 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Diversity is our Strength” just doesn’t carry the same message as “Death from Above”)
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To: BenLurkin

There’s no point arguing with anyone who has their mind made up already. If you’re guilty from their perspective, you’re guilty, and there’s nothing you can do to change their minds. Whatever evidence you provide to prove your “innocence”, they will disregard. They are the judge and the jury.

Move on and rid yourself of people like this in your life. You can’t agree with everyone, and with many, you can’t even agree to disagree.


9 posted on 06/10/2025 10:30:41 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: GOPJ

That’s the first time I’ve heard that.


10 posted on 06/10/2025 10:32:46 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: bitt

Clint Eastwood supposedly said “If you could reason with democrats, there wouldn’t be any democrats”


11 posted on 06/10/2025 10:34:22 AM PDT by Bob434 (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana)
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I caught myself the other day shutting down the “dialogue” (it never is, it’s a constant stream of accusations) with “Every one of your premises is a lie and I don’t have time to refute all of them.” It’s like trying to have a conversation about nuclear physics with a guy who demands that you prove that atoms exist first. You’re just not going anywhere.


12 posted on 06/10/2025 10:34:57 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Everything about this article I have experienced first hand when trying to reason with leftist democrats. They come prepared with an entirely different set of phony “facts”. When their “facts” don't hold up they fall back on ad hominem attacks.

I've basically given up on them and don't want to try to debate them and don't want them anywhere near me.

13 posted on 06/10/2025 10:35:11 AM PDT by Bullish (I've never seen such morons... Have you?)
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To: bitt
There is not a single fact, much less a body of them, that you and a lefty can agree upon to start a conversation about The Orange Man. Consuming biased media distorts what Democrats believe drives and informs conservatives.

Absolutely correct. Don't waste your time trying to reason with them, because they won't reason.

Use your time wisely by agitating, angering, insulting, humiliating, prodding and goading them into a full fledged meltdown.

Aggravate them till they explode and act out, and then beat the sh*t out of them if they try to attack you.

These people are horrible stupid people, and they need to be provoked to rage, and then they need to be slapped down from their temper tantrum.

They are not adults. They are bratty spoiled children walking around in adult bodies, and they need to be presented with the unpleasant reality that nobody admires them and people consider them to be stupid fools and trouble makers.

But don't ever attempt to reason with them.

14 posted on 06/10/2025 10:35:29 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: bitt
”Recently, a left-leaning friend…”

See, that’s where you went wrong.

15 posted on 06/10/2025 10:36:06 AM PDT by Flag_This (They're lying.)
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To: bitt

In truth - we need two parties so a part of me is hoping they figure out that their ‘intentions’ are meaningless to people who have watched what they’ve DONE. And they don’t get that.

The other thing is ‘hating in some other groups name’ is NOT a favor to anyone but themselves. The haters in their party need to be removed. Same with the so called ‘journalists’ who think hating one party is acceptable. It’s not.


16 posted on 06/10/2025 10:37:08 AM PDT by GOPJ (What if stupidity isn’t about intelligence at all, but about surrendering the will to think?Bonhoeff)
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To: bitt
Very true. To have a decent discussion, you have to have 1) a very basic core of agreed-upon facts, and 2) at least some shared core values. Without both, there's no point.

Which excludes meaningful discussions with the left.

17 posted on 06/10/2025 10:39:57 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: bitt

Why did Biden go full open borders?

I’d say extreme TDS.

It was done for no other reason than it was the opposite of what Trump would have done.

The Democrats have painted themselves into a corner where every policy and every move is based on doing the opposite of Trump.

In that sense Trump defines the Democrat Party.

They can’t move on from making any policy decision that would somehow be parallel to Trump.

Prime example is Amy Clarkbar has become a neocon warmonger in bed with Linda Graham for no other reason than it opposes Trump.


18 posted on 06/10/2025 10:42:03 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: bitt

They voted to shut us up. How can you have a conversation with someone that wants to shut you up?


19 posted on 06/10/2025 10:44:29 AM PDT by alternatives?
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To: bitt

Agree


20 posted on 06/10/2025 10:44:29 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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