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Exclusive-Ukraine hit fewer Russian planes than it estimated, US officials say
Reuters via Yahoo ^
| June 4th, 2025
| Phil Stewart and Idrees Ali
Posted on 06/04/2025 1:51:40 PM PDT by Mariner
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Two thoughts:
- Within two minutes Ukraine's claim of 41 aircraft had circled the globe twice. And within a couple of days a couple of billion people heard the claim.
- The US has an interest in Russia responding with severe, shocking results. It would act as a deterrent for our own vulnerable fleet.
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posted on
06/04/2025 1:51:40 PM PDT
by
Mariner
To: Mariner
Zelensky exaggerating, uh, lying, no kidding.
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posted on
06/04/2025 1:58:32 PM PDT
by
john drake
(Lucius Accius-Roman,170 BC - "oderint dum metuant" translated "Let them hate so long as they fear")
To: Mariner
hit as many as 20 Russian warplanes, destroying around 10 of them
Destroyed 10, but hit 20.
No assessment of how many were rendered unusable? If the 20 were his and suffered at least some damage, chances are that they won't see action any time soon. Might as well be considered disabled, all of them.
And for the low cost of the drones, the damage to Russian assets likely goes into the many billions.
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posted on
06/04/2025 1:59:37 PM PDT
by
adorno
( )
To: Mariner

This is my shocked face.
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posted on
06/04/2025 2:05:30 PM PDT
by
McGruff
To: Mariner
The United States assesses that Ukraine's drone attack over the weekend hit as many as 20 Russian warplanes, destroying around 10 of them, two U.S. officials told Reuters That figure is probably an exaggeration as well.
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posted on
06/04/2025 2:10:19 PM PDT
by
Kazan
To: Mariner
Numbers notwithstanding, you don’t just tool-up and start cranking out Soviet era Tupolev long range bombers to replace the ones lost. Those babies are gone forever.
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posted on
06/04/2025 2:16:12 PM PDT
by
SpaceBar
To: Mariner
This former Z adviser has been 100% correct since he fled Ukraine.
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To: All
Russian Ministry Of Defense says 4 planes were destroyed. 0 casualties.
I have some faith in Tulsi’s people (assuming she got NRO staff replaced by now) so I would not cut the US estimate in half. Call it 10 (from Tulsi) + 4 (MOD) / 2 and you get 7.
Russian bomber fleet pre-war was 136.
US bomber total — 60, 40 of which B-52, 20 of which B2
US nuclear warhead distribution is 80% submarines, 20% ICBMs and Bombers.
Russia nuclear warhead distribution 60% submarines, 40% ICBMs and bombers (with the very significant reality that the ICBM leg of their Triad is clearly superior to the US in that, simply, they are mobile. They will move on warning and escape the blast zone)
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posted on
06/04/2025 2:56:31 PM PDT
by
Owen
To: Mariner
Less than what Ukraine said, more than Russia said. What’s the story? What else would they say?
To: Mariner
Thanks,
We figured that the Zeepers were LYING TO US, yet again, when they claimed 40 planes destroyed.
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posted on
06/04/2025 3:17:01 PM PDT
by
BobL
To: Mariner
I should have used my normal BS filter and estimated the true number to be far less.
I fell for it.
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posted on
06/04/2025 3:19:49 PM PDT
by
Red6
To: Mariner
Figures, Zelensky is a well known liar. I imagine the Ghost of Kiev emerged from the rubble.
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posted on
06/04/2025 3:25:23 PM PDT
by
dforest
To: Owen
Time to park them in the desert. You got to wonder about our intelligence even to send them over there. Crimea Bridge reopened yesterday, too.
.

To: SpaceBar
Boeing probably has some 737 Max’s they could sell them
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posted on
06/04/2025 3:51:29 PM PDT
by
Cold Heart
(It's a good time to be ashamed to be a democrat)
To: Karl Spooner
Check to see if there are faucet restrictors in the fuel line.
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posted on
06/04/2025 3:54:44 PM PDT
by
Cold Heart
(It's a good time to be ashamed to be a democrat)
To: Mariner
Take the Uke claims and divide by 4. Just like their absurd estimate of 1,000,000 Russian casualties.
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posted on
06/04/2025 4:03:52 PM PDT
by
rfp1234
(E Porcibus Unum)
To: john drake
"Zelensky exaggerating, uh, lying, no kidding."
What could one expect from a dwarf that plays the piano with his penis?
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posted on
06/04/2025 4:10:50 PM PDT
by
mass55th
(“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
To: Karl Spooner
Sounds like something right out of Joseph Goebbels’s Reich Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda.
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posted on
06/04/2025 4:12:19 PM PDT
by
mass55th
(“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
To: Mariner
“The US has an interest in Russia responding with severe, shocking results. It would act as a deterrent for our own vulnerable fleet.”
Where did you buy that sub-prime logic? Laughable!
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posted on
06/04/2025 4:14:52 PM PDT
by
dennisw
(💯🇺🇸 Truth is Hate to those who Hate the Truth. 🇺🇸💯)
To: adorno
I heard estimates of $70.000 to pull off the operation that wrecked 7 billion dollars worth of airplanes. If the number of ruined airplanes gets revised downward......Still very impressive leverage of drone assets.
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posted on
06/04/2025 4:20:14 PM PDT
by
dennisw
(💯🇺🇸 Truth is Hate to those who Hate the Truth. 🇺🇸💯)
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