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Exclusive-Ukraine hit fewer Russian planes than it estimated, US officials say
Reuters via Yahoo ^ | June 4th, 2025 | Phil Stewart and Idrees Ali

Posted on 06/04/2025 1:51:40 PM PDT by Mariner

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -The United States assesses that Ukraine's drone attack over the weekend hit as many as 20 Russian warplanes, destroying around 10 of them, two U.S. officials told Reuters, a figure that is about half the number estimated by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy.

Still, the U.S. officials described the attack as highly significant, with one of them cautioning that it could drive Moscow to a far more severe negotiating position in the U.S.-brokered talks to end more than three years of war.

Russian President Vladimir Putin told U.S. President Donald Trump in a telephone conversation on Wednesday that Moscow would have to respond to attack, Trump said in a social media post.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 10planeslol; bidensfolly; omgpearlharbor; russianpearljam; zeepershasthesads; zeepersindespair
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Two thoughts:

- Within two minutes Ukraine's claim of 41 aircraft had circled the globe twice. And within a couple of days a couple of billion people heard the claim.

- The US has an interest in Russia responding with severe, shocking results. It would act as a deterrent for our own vulnerable fleet.

1 posted on 06/04/2025 1:51:40 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner

Zelensky exaggerating, uh, lying, no kidding.


2 posted on 06/04/2025 1:58:32 PM PDT by john drake (Lucius Accius-Roman,170 BC - "oderint dum metuant" translated "Let them hate so long as they fear")
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To: Mariner
hit as many as 20 Russian warplanes, destroying around 10 of them

Destroyed 10, but hit 20.

No assessment of how many were rendered unusable? If the 20 were his and suffered at least some damage, chances are that they won't see action any time soon. Might as well be considered disabled, all of them.

And for the low cost of the drones, the damage to Russian assets likely goes into the many billions.
3 posted on 06/04/2025 1:59:37 PM PDT by adorno ( )
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To: Mariner

This is my shocked face.

4 posted on 06/04/2025 2:05:30 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: Mariner
The United States assesses that Ukraine's drone attack over the weekend hit as many as 20 Russian warplanes, destroying around 10 of them, two U.S. officials told Reuters

That figure is probably an exaggeration as well.

5 posted on 06/04/2025 2:10:19 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Mariner

Numbers notwithstanding, you don’t just tool-up and start cranking out Soviet era Tupolev long range bombers to replace the ones lost. Those babies are gone forever.


6 posted on 06/04/2025 2:16:12 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Mariner
This former Z adviser has been 100% correct since he fled Ukraine.

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7 posted on 06/04/2025 2:49:28 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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Russian Ministry Of Defense says 4 planes were destroyed. 0 casualties.

I have some faith in Tulsi’s people (assuming she got NRO staff replaced by now) so I would not cut the US estimate in half. Call it 10 (from Tulsi) + 4 (MOD) / 2 and you get 7.

Russian bomber fleet pre-war was 136.

US bomber total — 60, 40 of which B-52, 20 of which B2

US nuclear warhead distribution is 80% submarines, 20% ICBMs and Bombers.

Russia nuclear warhead distribution 60% submarines, 40% ICBMs and bombers (with the very significant reality that the ICBM leg of their Triad is clearly superior to the US in that, simply, they are mobile. They will move on warning and escape the blast zone)


8 posted on 06/04/2025 2:56:31 PM PDT by Owen
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To: Mariner

Less than what Ukraine said, more than Russia said. What’s the story? What else would they say?


9 posted on 06/04/2025 3:14:18 PM PDT by Eastern Shore Virginian (Yea, I sometimes gild the lily.)
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To: Mariner

Thanks,

We figured that the Zeepers were LYING TO US, yet again, when they claimed 40 planes destroyed.


10 posted on 06/04/2025 3:17:01 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Mariner

I should have used my normal BS filter and estimated the true number to be far less.

I fell for it.


11 posted on 06/04/2025 3:19:49 PM PDT by Red6
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To: Mariner

Figures, Zelensky is a well known liar. I imagine the Ghost of Kiev emerged from the rubble.


12 posted on 06/04/2025 3:25:23 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Owen
Time to park them in the desert. You got to wonder about our intelligence even to send them over there. Crimea Bridge reopened yesterday, too.

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13 posted on 06/04/2025 3:33:18 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: SpaceBar

Boeing probably has some 737 Max’s they could sell them


14 posted on 06/04/2025 3:51:29 PM PDT by Cold Heart (It's a good time to be ashamed to be a democrat)
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To: Karl Spooner

Check to see if there are faucet restrictors in the fuel line.


15 posted on 06/04/2025 3:54:44 PM PDT by Cold Heart (It's a good time to be ashamed to be a democrat)
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To: Mariner

Take the Uke claims and divide by 4. Just like their absurd estimate of 1,000,000 Russian casualties.


16 posted on 06/04/2025 4:03:52 PM PDT by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum)
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To: john drake
"Zelensky exaggerating, uh, lying, no kidding."

What could one expect from a dwarf that plays the piano with his penis?

17 posted on 06/04/2025 4:10:50 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Karl Spooner

Sounds like something right out of Joseph Goebbels’s Reich Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda.


18 posted on 06/04/2025 4:12:19 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Mariner

“The US has an interest in Russia responding with severe, shocking results. It would act as a deterrent for our own vulnerable fleet.”

Where did you buy that sub-prime logic? Laughable!


19 posted on 06/04/2025 4:14:52 PM PDT by dennisw (💯🇺🇸 Truth is Hate to those who Hate the Truth. 🇺🇸💯)
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To: adorno

I heard estimates of $70.000 to pull off the operation that wrecked 7 billion dollars worth of airplanes. If the number of ruined airplanes gets revised downward......Still very impressive leverage of drone assets.


20 posted on 06/04/2025 4:20:14 PM PDT by dennisw (💯🇺🇸 Truth is Hate to those who Hate the Truth. 🇺🇸💯)
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