Posted on 06/03/2025 7:26:18 AM PDT by RandFan
Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., said the debt limit increase included in the One Big Beautiful Bill Act is still a deal-breaker for him, saying it goes against conservative values, despite discussions with President Donald Trump about his concerns.
Paul told reporters on Monday that the bill will increase the debt ceiling by $5 trillion, the largest debt increase in the U.S.
"We have never raised the debt ceiling without actually meeting that target," he said. "So you can say it doesn't directly add to the debt, but if you increase the ceiling $5 trillion, you'll meet that. And what it does is it puts it off the back-burner. And then we won't discuss it for a year or two."
"So I think it's a terrible idea to do this," he added.
Paul said he spoke with Trump about his concerns over the legislation during a "lengthy discussion," but that Trump "did most of the talking."
"I've told him I can't support the bill if they're together," Paul said. "If they were to separate out and take the, debt ceiling off that I very much could consider the rest of the bill."
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It must be close in the Senate math wise for this bill.
POG…Perfect Over Good
Has Rand offered any other solution / option ?
if the answer is NO, then he should shut his curly haired mouth up and vote yes
Yes he says he will support it if they take the debt ceiling hike off the table
He needs to learn math. There is no debt increase.
This guy needs to be primaried.
Here’s POTUS’ Truth, on this, from this morning ...
Rand votes NO on everything, but never has any practical or constructive ideas. His ideas are actually crazy (losers!). The people of Kentucky can’t stand him. This is a BIG GROWTH BILL!
Rand Paul has very little understanding of the BBB, especially the tremendous GROWTH that is coming. He loves voting “NO” on everything, he thinks it’s good politics, but it’s not. The BBB is a big WINNER!!!
I saw it but this time Rand does have back-up
This thing is not popular in the US Senate among GOP members at least 4 are against so far
Don’t worry, folks. (Insert fantasy program here) will eventually pay down the debt.
In all seriousness, Rand Paul is right. Not that it matters. Too many people just don’t care. So my fearless prediction: The federal government will eventually pay off its debt by firing up the printing presses.
Then it will be kinda like in the old Weimar Republic. A dozen eggs will cost $500. And later in the day, $600. So buy as early as you can.
Notice I said “kinda” there. Because we’ll see rioting that the Germans didn’t.
The only question is when it will happen.
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Now I am not a lawyer or a politician but it sounds like they are promising they will go on a diet but we will stock the refrigerator... you know, just in case we get a little hungry....
Voters don’t want to cut spending, especially for their pet programs.
Thankfully the crazy spending proposal won’t pass.
Rand is pretty useless…
If Rand wants spending cut, give Trump the power to cut programs and $$ allocations.
Paul has said that if the debt ceiling hike is removed, he could probably hold his nose and vote for it. Ideally, he wants spending cuts.
How do you know?
It’s close but they might have the numbers
But the answer is YES. Paul said. "If they were to separate out and take the, debt ceiling off that I very much could consider the rest of the bill."
Trump has never shown much enthusiasm for cuts beyond a few decrepit agencies and of course obvious fraud that Musk uncovered
This is why Trump hasnt said anything about Graham and his buddy going over to Ukraine to commit treason.
Trump needs the votes.
Yeah exactly that.
If there is to be no debt increase, then there is no reason to raise the debt ceiling.
I do think the Administration has a point about CBO declaring a big increase in deficit because they presume expiration of the 2017 tax cuts. CBO has projected a deficit total based on the September 2025 expiration. That total would increase, obviously, with the tax revs that then arrive no longer able to arrive.
But probably the correct evaluation is against the deficit, as it exists today, with the tax cuts still in place. No one would be proud of this. It’s $1.8T. If the tax cuts are extended, it will remain $1.8T absent all other effects.
Nothing to celebrate. That $1.8T adds to the debt. So in that context, Rand Paul is correct. The ceiling is being raised to accommodate that $1.8T (some insignificant cuts are hoped for, maybe down to $1.7T) accumulating.
There is no easy or painless way to fix all this. These tiny, silly amounts get swallowed immediately by next year’s $1.1T interest on the debt. Enormous upheaval must be endured to fix this.
If DJT really had much more power to do what he wanted without people like Rand getting in his way, he would wipe out entire government agencies by the dozen.
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