Posted on 05/14/2025 9:13:01 AM PDT by Heartlander
Trillions spent to “nation-build” after 9/11 which should have gone to the cause of eradicating Islam.
This seems big.
It is big. The idea that Sanctions on Syria solved anything was always a fool’s errand. 40 years of sanctions and Assad murdered perhaps 200,000. Sanctions did not work. So try something different. (rest assured that Assad never suffered during the sanctions, nor did his family - they fled to Russia without consequences for their murders.
NeoCon foreign policy no better example of Sunk Cost Fallacy
He’s not wrong about this. And if one of thoese islamic monarchies wants to go to war with the US then so be it. Far better to fight an identified and national army then a shady bunch of terrorists.
2. "...if they threaten us, we should make clear that the cost of harming us is higher than they can pay."
3. "...peace through strength
4. "We shouldn’t be troubled by our differences with other nations, so long as they don’t threaten us."
What good is "peace through strength" if you don't use that strength now and again? When, how, where, and how frequently do we actually USE that strength? If you don't use it, it loses all deterrence value.
If you think that they think that Trump won’t exert military strength when needed you you way off
Uh-oh. He’s just threatened the jobs, careers, and pensions of everyone in the CIA and the State Department. I hope he’s got better people than the Secret Service watching his back.
Of course he will. He bombed the crap out of ISIS in Syria in his first term. He’s been obliterating the Houthi’s in Yemen.
I just see an inconsistency in blasting the hell out of our enemies to get them to settle down on the one hand and saying we aren’t “nation building” on the other hand.
We are saying “if you behave and join the peaceful nations, we won’t touch you. But if you step out of line and harm us, we will destroy you.”
That’s fine, but, to me, it just seems to be a different kind of “nation building” because we are bending them to our will (i.e., get them to be peaceful and not troublesome).
That’s the inconsistency I see. Do you understand what I am saying?
“...What good is “peace through strength” if you don’t use that strength now and again? When, how, where, and how frequently do we actually USE that strength? If you don’t use it, it loses all deterrence value.”
Trump demonstrated peace through strength with the Houthi’s and I believe the world got the message. Trump has made it clear, FAFO, and if you don’t, we’ll leave you alone.
Trying to democratize Islamic cultures is a fools errand. Trump is channeling George Washington “Beware foreign entanglements”.
People do not yearn for democracy. They yearn for utopian dictatorship.
No more wars to launder money and enrich the MIC.
“ We are saying “if you behave and join the peaceful nations, we won’t touch you. But if you step out of line and harm us, we will destroy you.”
Read what he said or listen to his speech or look at the treaty
Stop wasting my time. That is not what’s going on here
Go work for AOC or Newsom.
Newsom is about to pretend to give a crap about his state which he has driven into the ground and exported millions to Texas to flip it for him to win in 2028
“Trump demonstrated peace through strength with the Houthi’s and I believe the world got the message.”
Did you notice how LITTLE press coverage there was of the assault on the Houthis? It was a MAJOR operation involving a huge amount of our forces in that region. Yet there was almost NO coverage of it.
It’s almost like the MSM doesn’t want to cover President Trump’s successes.
My point is that peace through strength means obliterating your enemies now and then and bending them to our will to behave as a good member of the community of nations. That may not be “nation building” in the neocon sense, but nevertheless we are making them behave and be members in good standing among the nations of the world. So it’s just another kind of “nation building” without remaking them into Middle Eastern versions of western liberal democracies. But the effect is the same in the end.
“ We are saying “if you behave and join the peaceful nations, we won’t touch you. But if you step out of line and harm us, we will destroy you.”
Read what he said or listen to his speech or look at the treaty
Stop wasting my time. That is not what’s going on here
Go work for AOC or Newsom.
Newsom is about to pretend to give a crap about his state which he has driven into the ground and exported millions to Texas to flip it for him to win in 2028
I have NO idea what you are blathering on about.
Nor do I have any idea what you are blathering about. Go work for the dems if what you pretend Trump is doing is so bad.
And, seemingly, to facilitate a muslim invasion of our country.
Now we get to fight them here so we don't have to fight them over there.
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