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It's Time to Stop Counting Illegal Aliens in the Census
Townhall ^ | May 09, 2025 | Katie Pavlich|

Posted on 05/11/2025 4:40:34 AM PDT by george76

During his first term, President Donald Trump issued an executive order directing the Census Bureau to add a question about citizenship status to the 2020 national survey.

There was good reason for this. The Census is used to count the population. Population numbers are then used to determine how many congressional seats are allocated to each state. Given illegal aliens aren’t citizens and ineligible to vote, they should not have representation in Congress and Democrats shouldn’t benefit from additional congressional seats based on an illegal population.

“If unauthorized immigrants were excluded from the apportionment count, California, Florida and Texas would each end up with one less congressional seat than they would have been awarded based on population change alone. California would lose two seats instead of one, Florida would gain one instead of two, and Texas would gain two instead of three, according to analysis based on projections of Census Bureau 2019 population estimates and the Center’s estimates of the unauthorized immigrant population,” Pew research details. “Alabama, Minnesota and Ohio would each hold onto a seat that they would have lost if apportionment were based only on total population change.”

“In addition to these states, 11 more would gain or lose seats based on population change alone, whether unauthorized immigrants are included or excluded. Five states would gain one seat each: Arizona, Colorado, Montana, North Carolina and Oregon. Six states would lose one seat each: Illinois, Michigan, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island and West Virginia,” Pew continues.

Democrats, whose congressional power is threatened by the citizenship question, sued in partnership with their leftist allies and the case made its way to the Supreme Court.

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“The court's majority said the government has the right to ask a citizenship question, but that it needs to properly justify changing the long-standing practice of the Census Bureau,” NBC News reported at the time about the 5-4 decision. “The decision makes it difficult for the Commerce Department to justify the question and make it part of the census before the forms have to be printed in only a few weeks. But it leaves the door open for the government to try again, and some legal experts believe the government could succeed.”

The Trump administration complied with the ruling, but didn’t let it pass without pushback or explanation.

“Data on the number of citizens and aliens in the country is needed to help us understand the effects of immigration on our country and to inform policymakers considering basic decisions about immigration policy. The Census Bureau has long maintained that citizenship data is one of the statistics that is ‘essential for agencies and policymakers setting and evaluating immigration policies and laws,’’’ Trump said, disagreeing with the Court’s ruling.

“Today, an accurate understanding of the number of citizens and the number of aliens in the country is central to any effort to reevaluate immigration policy. The United States has not fundamentally restructured its immigration system since 1965. I have explained many times that our outdated immigration laws no longer meet contemporary needs,” he continued. “My Administration is committed to modernizing immigration laws and policies, but the effort to undertake any fundamental reevaluation of immigration policy is hampered when we do not have the most complete data about the number of citizens and non-citizens in the country.”

Now that Trump is back in the White House for a second term, it’s time to try again for the 2030 Census. That work is already underway and started on January 20, 2025. Counting illegal aliens to gain political power through congressional seats is a form of cheating and it must be stopped.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alien; aliens; census; citizenship; illegal; illegalalien; illegalaliens; illegals

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1 posted on 05/11/2025 4:40:34 AM PDT by george76
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EXCELLENT.

Federal funds and number of Representatives are based on population - let those states who so believe in ‘Americans Last’ put their money where their traitorous mouths are and pay for their own trip to being a Third World country.


2 posted on 05/11/2025 4:47:16 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

Maybe start with the illegal aliens on the active voter rolls. They are not a few.


3 posted on 05/11/2025 4:53:38 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice
California would lose a LOT more Representatives, if a REAL count of the number of Illegals there was done accurately.

Does anyone believe the Illegals are NOT being used to generate Votes (fake voter SSN's, etc., to effect the steal)?

4 posted on 05/11/2025 4:55:51 AM PDT by traditional2 ("Is it them, again, Yogi?")
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To: Vigilanteman

At all.


5 posted on 05/11/2025 5:05:16 AM PDT by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: george76

But...but....but....what while happen to my sacred and privileged RAT congressional district???
Say it ain’t so...bring back Joe. LOL


6 posted on 05/11/2025 5:05:27 AM PDT by lgjhn23 ("On the 8th day, Satan created the progressive liberal to destroy all the good that God created...")
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To: george76
Given illegal aliens aren’t citizens and ineligible to vote

Not for long, if the leftists have their way.

7 posted on 05/11/2025 5:30:40 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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Counting “persons” as opposed to just citizens is a vestige of slavery.


8 posted on 05/11/2025 5:43:16 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: george76

It should NEVER have happened in the first place.


9 posted on 05/11/2025 5:43:32 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesu)
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To: george76

I live in NYS and I’m all for this.


10 posted on 05/11/2025 5:44:00 AM PDT by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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To: glorgau
***Counting “persons” as opposed to just citizens is a vestige of slavery***

It is chilling how similar the 'Rat party today is to them in 1861; they wanted their slaves counted to increase their power in Congress... and they keep pushing how the invaders provide cheap labor. Also the Dems are demanding their right to violate the law just as they insisted that their states were not subject to the Constitution back then.

I am convinced that they are building their case for another 'civil war'. This political faction should have been outlawed in 1865! They still insist that they are the party of 'the little guy' - a claim established by Andrew Jackson early in the 19th century. Now they have no real interest in the little guy; they are supported by billionaires and huge swaths of foreign money.

This political party is going to have to be disbanded if the Republic is to survive.

11 posted on 05/11/2025 5:59:33 AM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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To: george76

I think we ought to eliminate the census and do congressional district apportionment according to registered voters.


12 posted on 05/11/2025 6:05:37 AM PDT by Salman (Lasu Eŭropon bruli!)
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***it needs to properly justify changing the long-standing practice of the Census Bureau***

In other words: Congress must codify the issue. Waiting for Congress to pass an important law today is like waiting for pigs to develop ultrasonic flight.

13 posted on 05/11/2025 6:16:10 AM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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To: george76

I have been compiling my family history for 30 years and, as part of that effort, I routinely look at old census data (the filled out forms are available after 72 years). Every single census between 1900 and 1950 has eked bout whether someone is - or is not - a citizen (and if they were naturalized, when that occurred and how long they were in the country).

So, why is it suddenly illegal to ask these same questions?


14 posted on 05/11/2025 6:25:56 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: george76

BTTT


15 posted on 05/11/2025 6:31:49 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: george76

Democrat racists, a redundancy, always claim that it was horrible that the Constitution only counted black slaves as a three fifths person.

The truth was that the democrat slave states wanted to count all slaves in the Census to increase their Congressional representation while denying those black slaves any voting or other rights.

The three fifths count was a compromise to REDUCE democrat game plan to use slaves for political clout.while keeping them in bondage.


16 posted on 05/11/2025 6:33:42 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: george76

If every state loses seats, and the total remains the same, some states must gain seats to even out the count. Unless this is all new math.


17 posted on 05/11/2025 6:45:11 AM PDT by Bernard (Issue an annual budget. And Issue a federal government balance sheet. Let's see what we got.)
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To: traditional2

California is losing at least 2 electoral votes regardless. Many blue states are. We may win every presidential election from 2031 on.


18 posted on 05/11/2025 6:47:25 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: george76

Better yet, do a recount of the last census and remove the illegals.


19 posted on 05/11/2025 7:02:14 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: george76

How did illegals get counted in the first place?


20 posted on 05/11/2025 7:17:19 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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