Canada's path to carnage will accelerate if Carney wins

Many Canadians believe that Liberal leader Mark Carney, as former Governor of the Bank of England and Governor of the Bank of Canada, would lead Canada out of the financial mess the Liberals created in the decade since Justin Trudeau was first elected PM. They see Carney as a breath of fresh air and someone who can better manage our relationship with America than Pierre Poilievre.

Nothing could be further from the truth. Jim Balsillie, Canadian businessman and philanthropist, explained in a March 17, 2025 interview on The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast, that Carney's expertise doesn't transfer to leading the country:

"it's important to understand … that he's a macro economist and a central banker, and that's a very narrow function. Your responsibility is price stability of the money systems, banking stability and the regulatory compliance of the payment systems. You operate in a narrow but important realm. But your involvement with the firm and the productivity is, that's a very distant part."

Regardless, many of the Trudeau government ministers have been reappointed into Carney's cabinet, indicating little change in direction overall. If anything, Carney will double down on the failed Trudeau climate change and energy policies driven by the UN and the WEF. In short, it will be an unmitigated disaster.

If Carney and his Liberal Party of Canada win, the following will almost certainly happen:

1 – a few months after the election, Carney will say that Canada is not meeting our climate change targets (we never do). He will then likely raise the "carbon tax" on consumers from its current 0% (he did not "cancel" it, as it is part of an Act of Parliament, so only Parliament can cancel it) to something higher than Trudeau had. Carney said previously that the rate should be higher than the Trudeau Liberals had it and has campaigned to have a worldwide carbon tax on consumers.

2 - Carney wants to continue and indeed increase the industry carbon tax, which is eventually passed on to the consumer. He will continue the current Liberal plan to put an emissions cap on the oil and gas sector, with regulations to be finalized before the end of 2025. According to The Conference Board of Canada, this would essentially cut real Canadian GDP in half.

3 – Contrary to Carney's recent promises, he will almost certainly continue the Liberal approach of blocking pipelines and hydrocarbon fuel development, thereby robbing Canada of our primary source of income. Together, Liberal policies have resulted in the cancellation or abandonment of an estimated $670 billion in projects, including the Northern Gateway Pipeline, the Energy East Pipeline, the Pacific Coast LNG project, the Aurora LNG project, the Prince Rupert LNG Project, the Saguenay LNG Project and the WCC LNG Project. In fact, Carney confirmed that he would not repeal Bill C-69 the No Pipelines Act, even though he personally told Alberta Premier Danielle Smith that it was a problematic bill that would have to be replaced. We are 10-15 years behind both the Australians and Americans in the development of LNG export facilities. Recall that when the Germans came begging Canada for energy last Fall, Trudeau stated that he could not see the "market" case. Carney will likely do the same.

4 – If Carney wins, Canada will face a serious constitutional crisis with oil and natural gas-rich Alberta, which asserts its right to control its own natural resources and opposes federal interference in their management. The separatist movement in Alberta will likely gain strength, intensifying conflicts with Ottawa, and possibly leading the province to separate from Canada. According to the Fraser Institute, from 2007 to 2022, Alberta's net contribution to federal government finances (i.e., payments minus receipts) was almost $245 billion. That's an average of $16.3 billion per year, by far the largest sum from any province. Albertans contributed $53.6 billion more to the Canada Pension Plan than retirees in Alberta received from it from 1981 to 2022. If Alberta leaves, Canada will eventually resemble some of the poorer European nations.

5 – Being a WEF insider, Carney will apparently put WEF goals and globalism above what is good for Canada. And God help you if you disagree with him. After all, Carney was one of the leading voices advocating extreme action against the 2022 Freedom Convoy and its funders. On February 7, only a week into the protests, Carney wrote an angry editorial in the Globe and Mail titled "It's time to end the sedition in Ottawa by enforcing the law and following the money." He wrote:

"By now anyone sending money to the convoy should be in no doubt: You are funding sedition."

That was nonsense. The Western Standard reported on March 27, 2025 that even the police disagreed:

"The RCMP in internal emails ridiculed Carney for misreading sedition laws, and that Carney's definition appeared to be cut and paste from the American Merriam-Webster Dictionary. The Canadian Criminal Code stipulates "use of force" is required for a charge of sedition."

There was no violence or use of force. So, it begs the question, will Canadians who oppose his policies, on climate change for example, be charged with sedition?

6 – Carney's globalist approach would also likely result in allowing the World Health Organization to dictate vaccine policies for Canadians and having our vaccine status digitized in a way to limit our freedom of movement.

7 - Carney's recent quick trip to Paris and London and comments that Canada is a European-style nation is concerning. He would apparently like Canada to reject the US and integrate with the EU which is a jurisdiction in rapid economic and democratic decline.

8 – As Canada's economy withers, more and more companies will relocate outside of our country and unemployment and inflation will soar. Carney has shown that he will go where the money is, whether it is good for Canada or not. The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation reported on February 26, 2025:

"While Carney was chair, the BAM [Brookfield Asset Management] board unanimously agreed last year to move the company's head office from Toronto to New York as part of a bid to convince more Americans to invest in the company and try to gain what the company called 'broader equity index inclusion.'"

9 – Lacking a sufficient tax base, our socialized medical system will quickly be out of funds. Wait times, already long, will get even longer, leading to people who need urgent tests going to the US to get them at a high price.

10 – Stopping climate change, Carney's calling card for decades, will be the central concern of all government decisions. Indeed, Carney wants every business decision to take climate change into account. If a business's emissions are too high, Carney will undoubtedly encourage banks, insurers and investors to remove or phase out financing. Carney also wants all of the data uploaded to the UN's Net Zero Data Public Utility, robbing Canada of confidentiality of its own data. With every transaction driven by climate concerns, the country will be littered with wind turbines, solar stations and electric vehicles left to rot, causing massive environmental harm and human rights abuses in the third-world nations that mine the materials required and manufacture these machines. Our power supply will consequently be regularly interrupted with brown outs and black outs like Texas experienced in 2021 when up to 700 people died because the state's wind turbines failed just before Winter Storm Uri hit.

Carney would continue and add to the 140 climate-related measures that the federal government has already implemented and that impose hundreds of billions of dollars in costs on the Canadian economy every year. One of the worst is the proposed Carbon Border Adjustment Mechanism, which was part of the Fall Economic Statement and is part of Carney's leadership platform. This is essentially a very complex set of tariffs that would be imposed on the imports of goods from the countries that do not have climate policies as severe as those implemented by Canada; in other words, almost all the countries in the world outside of western Europe. Notably, it would mean imposing a broad range of tariffs on Canada's three largest trading partners – the United States, Mexico and China. Such a measure would seem tailor-made to aggravate the Trump Administration and virtually guarantee the application of the punitive American tariffs that Canadian federal and provincial governments are now seeking to head off. It would, like most of the Carney proposals, also require a major expansion in the federal bureaucracy to design, manage and administer it.

11 – Mainstream media will continue to pocket billions of Canadian taxpayer dollars—the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation alone receives $1.4 billion a year from the taxpayer and Carney wants to give them $150 million per year more—ensuring that only woke, politically-correct coverage supporting the Liberals will continue.

12 - President Donald Trump said he hopes Carney wins, which is probably why he shows Carney more respect than he did "Governor Trudeau." Trump said it was easier dealing with a Liberal than a Conservative, which should make Canadians concerned about Trump pause.

13 - Because of Carney's lack of fluency in French, there will be little debate in Quebec. This is key, as any potential Energy East pipeline project will require Quebec's approval. And what is his position on the dairy industry in Quebec, which the federal liberals have been willing to protect (300% tariffs) at the cost of Ontario's auto industry. Because of Carney's inadequacies, these issues will be kept out of the national debate, despite being key to the country's future.

14 - He has put on hold the multi-billion-dollar F-35 fighter jet project as a lever against trade tariffs. This is not the first time Liberals have played politics with major defence acquisitions—one of the reasons our military is in such a woeful state.

And, if all that wasn't enough reason to vote against Carney, take a look at Carney and the Group of 30, an April 1 article by Catherine Swift, President of the Coalition of Concerned Manufacturers & Businesses of Canada.

We want a leader who will put Canada first and develop policies that will take full advantage of our vast natural resources. Unless we can fire up the economy with resource development, the brain drain, losing people like Elon Musk, Kevin O'Leary and Jordan Peterson, is going to accelerate.

We don't want a PM who is beholding to the globalist elites at the UN and WEF. With the elections coming up on April 28, this, Canada, is your last chance to finally stop the Liberal carnage.

He won with a minority—whether a strong minority or weak minority remains to be seen because there are still 18 uncalled seats.

Probably about the best result that could be hoped for given the circumstances—Carney will have a hard time getting much of the more radical stuff done, and likely will have to call another election within 8-24 months.

Thinking that this goof winning instead would make any difference is just a cope.

https://x.com/YukonStrong/status/1899299950548357500

I would not be surprised to see Canada join the EU. Instead of being the welfare state of the US, they can suck on some other teat.

“ Carney wins, Canada will face a serious constitutional crisis ”

Canada doesn’t have a written Constitution. It’s like the UK that way.

Carney will have a hard time getting much of the more radical stuff done

This depends quite a lot on whether the NDP keeps enough seats to secure a majority vote for the Liberals. They lost a lot of ground, but the deal they were able to make in a similar position under Trudeau applied a lot of pressure toward the left, including for example a significant increase to the bargaining power of union strikes at all federally-regulated workplaces, and a national dental care program.

If they can revive the deal, national pharmacare could be next on the list.

Canada’s dissolution now seems likely. Some provinces will become new US states, others will become quasi-independent territories affiliated with the US, while others may attempt to become nation states on their own.

from Mark Steyn i gather Poilievre was a squish - no firebrand and rather spineless. i worry that Canadians are used to being led around - and not up to being the 51st state. perhaps Alberta will disengage: now that would be interesting.

That's what people said decades ago -- the 1970s or 1980s, I forget which -- when Quebec held a vote on whether to secede from Canada.

I see a very real chance of Alberta, Manitoba and Saskatchewan seceding and becoming states. If Alberta alone leaves it will be devastating - and they have every reason to considering they’re oil rich, have essentially been Canada’s cash cow and would be much much richer as a state, AND now Carney determined to sacrifice their economy to Gaia.

That's what people said decades ago -- the 1970s or 1980s, I forget which -- when Quebec held a vote on whether to secede from Canada.

Quebec would have been leaving over cultural/linguistic issues. Alberta has every economic incentive to get out from under Ottawa's thumb. As a state they would keep far more of their own money AND Gaia worshipers are not nearly as strong in the US as in Canada ergo the economic sabotage of their oil industry would be far less than it is now. If they wanted to adopt a socialized medicine scheme for their state, they'd be free to do so. They'd even get their gun rights back and the curbs on their freedom of speech would be lifted.

Re: 10 - no Province will leave Confederation.

The other Provinces would have to agree to another leaving. I don’t see that happening.

>>As a state they would keep far more of their own money AND Gaia worshipers are not nearly as strong in the US as in Canada ergo the economic sabotage of their oil industry would be far less than it is now. If they wanted to adopt a socialized medicine scheme for their state, they’d be free to do so. They’d even get their gun rights back and the curbs on their freedom of speech would be lifted.

Lots of benefits to Alberta, but what are the benefits to America? Especially considering they’d be a blue state. Might be better if Alberta goes completely independant.

Lots of benefits to Alberta, but what are the benefits to America? Especially considering they’d be a blue state. Might be better if Alberta goes completely independant.

1) Alberta would definitely be a red state - look at their voting pattern. 2) They'd be very oil rich - even moreso than Texas or Alaska or North Dakota, etc

IMO their dissolution is best, there are parts of Cananda (liberal) the US should treat like Mexico, let the liberals die under their ideology, do not let them into the US.

The conservative portions we should scoop up and fence of from the rest of Canda, then watch as those liberal cities no longer have any resources to feed and run their dystopian society.

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.