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German Defense Minister Pistorius says Trump's proposals for territorial cessions from Ukraine to Russia are "going too far
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Posted on 04/27/2025 11:57:21 AM PDT by janetjanet998

JUST IN - German Defense Minister Pistorius says Trump's proposals for territorial cessions from Ukraine to Russia are "going too far" and has assured Ukraine of more weapons from Germany.


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1 posted on 04/27/2025 11:57:21 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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Euros going to keep pumping the “Ukraine can win” drug into Z


2 posted on 04/27/2025 11:58:24 AM PDT by janetjanet998 (Legacy media including youtube are the enemy of the people and must die)
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Well Gee wiz maybe Germany should have made more of fuss when Obama handed Crimea to Putin on a SILVER PLATTER but couldnt do that since Obama was the messiah


3 posted on 04/27/2025 11:58:42 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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Maybe they'll take Poland in exchange?

Hey, just 🤔 out loud.

4 posted on 04/27/2025 12:01:08 PM PDT by Texas Eagle ("Throw me to the wolves and I'll return leading the pack"- Donald J. Trump)
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Well Gee wiz maybe Germany should have made more of fuss when Obama handed Crimea to Putin on a SILVER PLATTER but couldnt do that since Obama was the messiah


BINGO!


5 posted on 04/27/2025 12:01:16 PM PDT by tsowellfan (Trump did his part - Now we need to do ours - Contact our Reps and let them know where WE stand...)
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What do the ‘yoops’ suggest?


6 posted on 04/27/2025 12:01:39 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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You kept your Stukas in flying condition?


7 posted on 04/27/2025 12:02:05 PM PDT by Texas Eagle ("Throw me to the wolves and I'll return leading the pack"- Donald J. Trump)
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Ukraine needs to quit killing and get out of the Russians won this day one. They are more powerful than period

The US is out. We have no business there except Biden crime family interests and those allied with them and that does not include the constitutional republic of the US whose government was overthrown.

That is over.


8 posted on 04/27/2025 12:02:52 PM PDT by stanne (Because they were mesmerized by Obama, the man for whom this was named, whose name they left out of )
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Europe keeps buying Russian oil

Reminder Video
Trump went to the UN and called out countries for relying on Russian energy

The German delegation was caught on camera laughing at him for saying it
https://rumble.com/vwps7b-trump-went-to-the-un-and-called-out-countries-for-relying-on-russian-oil.html


9 posted on 04/27/2025 12:03:39 PM PDT by janetjanet998 (Legacy media including youtube are the enemy of the people and must die)
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Putin: ‘Oh... sorry. We’ll leave Crimea and those other places we took. I’ll get right on that.”


10 posted on 04/27/2025 12:07:01 PM PDT by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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Reality is Russia is not giving back an inch of the mineral rich ground it has taken.

Draw the new border.

End the war.


11 posted on 04/27/2025 12:07:25 PM PDT by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh
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Have any of these yerupeons yet put their money where their mouth is?


12 posted on 04/27/2025 12:07:30 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (Looks like I'll have to buy the White Album again.)
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German Defense Minister Pistorius

Isn't he one of the Zeepers here? That name looks familiar.

13 posted on 04/27/2025 12:07:38 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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No doubt, the Poles could mount a resistance to Russia which would make the conflict now between Russia and Ukraine look like a schoolyard fistfight between two fourth-graders.

Poland opened the first fissure in the Soviet Empire LONG before that hegemony collapsed.


14 posted on 04/27/2025 12:07:43 PM PDT by alloysteel ( Divergence is not at all the same thing as diversity.)
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Actually some progress in the sense that Pistorius isn't talking about Ukraine getting all its territory back. It's hard for me to see either side accepting a cease-fire that simply freezes the conflict because neither side clearly achieves any objectives from that vs. continuing the fighting.

There should be a clear line regarding any territorial exchanges that is acceptable to both sides. Something like Ukraine concedes Luhansk, Donetsk, and Crimea but gets Zaporizhia and Kherson back, including the Zaporizhia NPP. Ukraine also then has clear control of the Dnipro. Putin can claim he's reincorporated the "Russian" parts of Ukraine. Ukraine should also get some bilateral treaty org with European states for security and EU membership.

15 posted on 04/27/2025 12:11:43 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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Sounds like a backhanded, if unintentional, endorsement.


16 posted on 04/27/2025 12:13:47 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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‘Draw the new border.

End the war.”

That won’t do it. The war wasn’t about land. It was about having a neutered state similar to Belarus on Russian’s border. This started when Ukraine decided it wanted a deal with the West because it could get rich, unlike all the people who are under the Russian thumb and poor. It’s not land. It’s the power to intimidate into compliance.


17 posted on 04/27/2025 12:14:06 PM PDT by Gen.Blather (I had a tagline and I dropped it. The cat back-pawed it under the Barcalounger. )
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“No doubt, the Poles could mount a resistance to Russia which would make the conflict now between Russia and Ukraine look like a schoolyard fistfight between two fourth-graders.”

In fact they are unlikely to make a difference at all.

Organization

The Polish Armed Forces consist of 292,000+ active duty personnel.[18] In 2023, troop strength in the five different branches was as follows:

Land Forces (Wojska Lądowe): 100,200, Reserve 40,000+[19]
Air Force (Siły Powietrzne): 46,500[19]
Navy (Marynarka Wojenna): 17,000[19][20]
Special Forces (Wojska Specjalne): 4,000[19]
Territorial Defence Force (Wojska Obrony Terytorialnej): 55,000[21]


18 posted on 04/27/2025 12:40:48 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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19 posted on 04/27/2025 12:43:41 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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Whiel I don’t trust the European fools who have already given away their nations to the hoard of Muslim invaders and to socialism (at the expense of US taxpayers paying for the bulk of their national defense)...

This was still Putin’s war - and Russia “shouldn’t” benefit by being rewarded with additional territory.


20 posted on 04/27/2025 12:45:10 PM PDT by TheBattman (Democrats-Progressives-Marxists-Socialists-Satanists: redundant labels.)
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