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2 men arrested, accused of hauling 180,000 rounds of ammo from Utah into Colorado
CBS ^ | April 21, 2025 | Logan Smith

Posted on 04/23/2025 6:38:57 PM PDT by cuz1961

Two residents of Mexico were recently arrested in Colorado while allegedly transporting 180,000 rounds of large-caliber ammunition. ... ..

Both men inside the van - Caesar Ramon Martinez Solis, 41, and Humberto Ivan Amador Gavira, 24, both of Mexico - presented United States Visas as their forms of identification.

...Detectives asked to search the van. Martinez Solis, the driver, gave permission. Inside the cargo compartment, the detectives found approximately 150 boxes of .308-caliber ammunition and approximately 30 boxes of 7.62 ammunition. Each box was labeled as containing 1,000 rounds.

Neither man's documentation permitted them to be possession of weapons or ammunition, even for hunting or sporting purposes, according to the federal affidavit. ...The two men were subsequently interviewed by ICE agents and others from the Denver offices of the U.S. Homeland Security and U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives. Martinez Solis told them that he and his brother-in-law, Amador Gavira, entered the U.S. the day before. They traveled to Denver, bought the van there, then drove to Salt Lake City and purchased the ammunition from a store, as recounted in the affidavit.

Neither man's visas allowed them to transport ammunition or firearms across state lines.

Martinez Solis told investigators the ammunition was, to the best of his knowledge, destined for Pueblo.

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(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; ammo; banglist; colorado

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1 posted on 04/23/2025 6:38:57 PM PDT by cuz1961
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To: cuz1961

Just some good ole boys.


2 posted on 04/23/2025 6:40:06 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: cuz1961

This is not good.


3 posted on 04/23/2025 6:40:58 PM PDT by The Free Engineer
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To: crusty old prospector

“We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there....”


4 posted on 04/23/2025 6:41:09 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: cuz1961

Somebody needs research ammunition if they think .308 and 7.62 are “large caliber”

I wonder if we can buy that confiscated ammo before it is unnecessarily destroyed. . .


5 posted on 04/23/2025 6:42:39 PM PDT by MCSETots
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To: crusty old prospector
Never meaning no harm
just dragging some ammo out to the farm
6 posted on 04/23/2025 6:42:45 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Never attribute malice to that which can be explained by incompetence.)
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To: cuz1961

What’s the illegal part? Ammunition is not restricted in either state except by age which they were both over. They both had valid visas. I don’t think it’s against the law for an immigrant on a visa to possess ammunition. Maybe guns. Wonder what the charge was?


7 posted on 04/23/2025 6:43:39 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2025... RETURN OF THE JEDI...)
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To: cuz1961

this is what Mike Glover has to say about this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blpPitEkmBY&pp=ygU8Q2FydGVscyBwcmVwYXJlIGZvciBpbnNpZGUgdGhlIFVTIGF0dGFjayB3aXRoIDE4MGsgcm91bmRzIGlu

rt 12 m 37 s


8 posted on 04/23/2025 6:44:35 PM PDT by cuz1961
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To: cuz1961

Prairie dog hunting.


9 posted on 04/23/2025 6:44:50 PM PDT by Ronald77
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To: dfwgator

One of the worst movies ever was that elephant sequel.


10 posted on 04/23/2025 6:45:31 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: crusty old prospector
"Just some good ole boys."

"...never meanin' no harm."

11 posted on 04/23/2025 6:45:59 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too. 😁 " - Robert Conquest )
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Wonder what cartel they worked for? It’s pretty obvious they weren’t transporting it from a source in Utah to a gun store in Pueblo. I was thinking they might be hired truckers, but it sounds like they bought the band themselves.


12 posted on 04/23/2025 6:46:09 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2025... RETURN OF THE JEDI...)
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To: DesertRhino

its stated in the text.

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” Neither man’s documentation permitted them to be possession of weapons or ammunition, even for hunting or sporting purposes, according to the federal affidavit”

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13 posted on 04/23/2025 6:46:47 PM PDT by cuz1961
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To: BipolarBob

Yuk yuk.


14 posted on 04/23/2025 6:47:23 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: cuz1961

The scary thing, who’s to say it was headed into Mexico. Just as plausible to think it’s being stashed away here against a day that is probably coming that we don’t want to think about.


15 posted on 04/23/2025 6:49:00 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2025... RETURN OF THE JEDI...)
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yup

they said they wete takeing it to Pueblo NM

“Martinez Solis told investigators the ammunition was, to the best of his knowledge, destined for Pueblo”

glover said pueblo is packed with cartel.


16 posted on 04/23/2025 6:55:42 PM PDT by cuz1961
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also that 18000 doesnt lend itself to a bunch of bolt or gas fed rifles,,

more like to be linked into belts.

belt fed firearms would be a real bad day for a p.d. or swat team.


17 posted on 04/23/2025 6:58:55 PM PDT by cuz1961
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-150 boxes of .308-caliber ammunition and approximately 30 boxes of 7.62 ammunition-

.308-caliber ammunition is 7.62 ammunition, so I guess they had 180 boxes of .308/7.62 ammunition.


18 posted on 04/23/2025 6:59:21 PM PDT by bosco24
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Probably Pueblo Colorado, which has fallen on pretty hard times and there’s a lot of drug use.

Pueblo, NM has only 100 or so residents.


19 posted on 04/23/2025 7:00:53 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: bosco24

It could be referring to 7.62x39 which is used in the AK line of rifles.


20 posted on 04/23/2025 7:01:31 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Free at last, free at last, thank God Almighty, I am free at last)
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