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Mike Lee on Trump Birthright Citizenship Case: ‘It’s a Close Case — It Can Be Won’
Breitbart ^ | April 20, 2025 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 04/20/2025 6:38:54 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man

During this week’s broadcast of FNC’s “Sunday Morrning Futures,” Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) offered an optimistic take on the Trump administration’s challenge to the country’s existing birthright citizenship policy currently being considered by the Supreme Court.

“Look, Jason, this is a fascinating case,” he said. “It’s a close case. It can be won. No one knows the outcome for sure. But one thing that’s important for everyone to keep in mind, this case is not about whether birthright citizenship exists, nor does it undermine the 14th Amendment’s birthright citizenship promise. This is, rather, about what the contours of birthright citizenship look like, whether or not you can be someone who’s born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.”

Lee continued, “It’s that second phrase in the 14th Amendment, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, that we’re looking at here. What President Trump has done is issued an executive order directing agencies prospectively not to recognize the birthright citizenship of people born after the moment of this order’s issuance, saying that they won’t be recognized as birthright citizens unless, at the time of their birth, they have at least one parent who was either a citizen or a lawful permanent resident. And so this is a closed question.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 14thamendment; birthrightcitizens; illegalaliens; wongkimark
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I hope the Supreme Court gets it right.
1 posted on 04/20/2025 6:38:54 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Not with this treasonous Supremacist Court. Two many dizzy broads.


2 posted on 04/20/2025 6:46:05 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (It's time to deport the Supreme Court under the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights.)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

It’s not close. It’s utter retardation to twist the law into allowing anchor babies. And the “elite” are quite retarded.


3 posted on 04/20/2025 6:50:16 PM PDT by vpintheak (Screw the ChiComms! America first!)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Not with this avoid everything Court


4 posted on 04/20/2025 6:54:51 PM PDT by wardaddy (The Blob must be bled dry)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

This is a hostile Supreme Court.

Six of the nine justices were appointed by Republicans. Three of those six were appointed by Trump.

Some people blame the Federalist Society. Others blame Mitch McConnell and the senate RINOs. Some blame Trump.

Republicans are notorious for appointing more squishes than conservatives. It’s been going on for a long time.

The left doesn’t make mistakes when it comes to appointments.

Republicans need to do better.


5 posted on 04/20/2025 7:17:09 PM PDT by Mr. N. Wolfe
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To: FlingWingFlyer

It must be won or the muslims will control this Country in a few years. They are getting footholds in Texas and Minn.


6 posted on 04/20/2025 7:22:59 PM PDT by chopperk (airhiger)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

The lawless supreme court will never do it. After what they just did then there is no question that they have no regard for the law or the constitution. Let alone do they have any desire to protect this country.


7 posted on 04/20/2025 7:49:33 PM PDT by Revel
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To: chopperk

Austin is a Muslim colony.


8 posted on 04/20/2025 8:06:41 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (It's time to deport the Supreme Court under the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights.)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

close? are you kidding?

if any country allowed birthright citizenship for those who entered the country illegally, that country would be 20 years from being taken over by any country willing to send enough people to change the vote... 20 years in the future.

it cannot be allowed.

those who wrote the 14th NEVER intended it to apply to ambassadors or tourists... illegals are just uninvited tourists that never left.


9 posted on 04/20/2025 8:23:45 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

I have little faith in the SC in making the correct finding.


10 posted on 04/20/2025 9:02:48 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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Thank you for posting vpintheak.

"It’s not close. It’s utter retardation to twist the law into allowing anchor babies. And the “elite” are quite retarded."


I fully agree. In fact, we're being played by RINOs imo.

Patriots not familiar with the history of the 14th Amendment's (14A) "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" phrase may find the following material interesting. It is arguably one of the briefer ways to show how Congress interpreted the jurisdiction phrase of Section 1 of 14A, that phrase not intended to automatically give citizenship to people born to foreigners in the US imo.

"14th Amendment, Section 1: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside [emphasis added]. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

First, while 14A was being drafted, the post-Civil War 39th Congress had made a bill defining citizenship based on people born in US, the Civil Rights Act of 1866 (CRA1866), the Republican majority Congress dubiously basing this bill on the 13th Amendment (13A) imo.

Next, Democratic President Andrew Johnson, a former slave owner, vetoed the bill based on his allegedly strong opposition to federally guaranteed rights for black Americans.

Republican majority lawmakers then overrode Johnson veto.

However, Rep. John Bingham and other lawmakers cautioned Republicans that 13A did not give Congress sufficient power to justify CRA1866. (I agree with Bingham.)

After 14A was ratified in 1868, Congress recycled CRA1866 by referencing it in Section 18 of the Civil Rights Act of 1870 making Congress's original definition of born citizens, which excluded people born to non-citizens from automatic citizenship, the official law of the land.

Also, note that Senator Jacob Howard, the author of 14A's "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" phrase, had attempted to clarify that children born to foreigners and foreign dignitaries while in US are excluded from birth citizenship.

"...[E]very person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law [all emphases added] a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the government of the United States, but will include every other class of person." —Speech on the proposed 14th Amendment

Howard's statement could have been better written imo.

Given CRA1866 with its exclusion of children born to foreigners in US being preserved by CR1870, my conclusion is that elite Desperate Democrats and RINOs who are arguing that Sen. Jacob Howard's statement was intended to exclude only children born to foreign dignitaries in US are in error.

11 posted on 04/20/2025 9:51:29 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Macho MAGA Man

We need this


12 posted on 04/21/2025 3:31:02 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: sten

That’s all it is.

A recipe for invasion and takeover.

It’s already happened in the Southwest and the Pacific Coast.

Senator Padilla and Gallego? Which country are they loyal to?

No one has to guess.


13 posted on 04/21/2025 4:09:56 AM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

If SCOTUS rules for Trump on the 15th of May limiting judicial overreach, it will suggest they will also let stand Trump’s Birthright Citizen EO.

For the record, 75% of the illegal aliens Obama removed were nonjudicial removals, meaning they bypassed immigration court hearings and judicial oversight without any judicial overreach from Republican federal judges at the time.


14 posted on 04/21/2025 5:12:24 AM PDT by batazoid (Natural born citizen)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

9-0 Constitutional Amendment required.

I will be very surprised if there is one dissent.


15 posted on 04/21/2025 5:29:43 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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Republicans need to do better

Why do you say that? The GOP is a pro-open borders party. Have been for years.

16 posted on 04/21/2025 5:31:08 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: vpintheak

Exactly. Only if possible close because our USSC is as corrupt as the rest of our government and other institutions.


17 posted on 04/21/2025 5:32:12 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Jim Noble

And so, apparently too, is “MAGA” now.

Fool us three times, shame on us, no?


18 posted on 04/21/2025 5:38:20 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Which it may be.


19 posted on 04/21/2025 7:30:21 AM PDT by vpintheak (Screw the ChiComms! America first!)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

I don’t trust this court at all. Roberts will never go for it and Amy Coney Barrett is anybody’s guess.


20 posted on 04/21/2025 8:03:25 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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