Posted on 03/28/2025 10:37:10 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
DOGE chief Elon Musk appeared on Fox News Channel’s “Special Report” on Thursday. During a wide-ranging interview, Musk discussed the Russia-Ukraine conflict and how it would ultimately be resolved.
Musk criticized those championing the continuation of the conflict, who were doing so as a so-called “virtue signal.”
“Obviously, there are some Republicans who think supporting Ukraine is the right thing, still,” FNC host Bret Baier said. “But there is a battle back and forth about how. How do you think it comes to an end?”
Musk replied, “Well, I think there will be a negotiated peace. And the thing that we should be concerned about is we should have empathy for the thousands of people that are dying every day in trenches for no movement in the lines. The borders have remained the same. For the past two years, dozens of people have died every week for nothing. For what? And I take great offense at those who put the appearance of goodness over the reality of it. Those who virtue signal and say we can’t give in to Russia but have no solution to stopping thousands of kids dying every day. They just want that to continue forever. I have contempt for such people. And I want to make that clear.”
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
Heard him say that on the interview yesterday. Totally appropriate.
WW1 trenches: WHAT BRUTALITY! I CAN’T BELIEVE THIS HAPPENED!
Ukrainian trenches: Give it another 5 years.
Humm, the richest man in the world, and a Genius coder agrees with me.
Never thought it would happen.
I can understand that, Elon!
If Elon were a freeper, he could help us fight the zeepers.
When did the spot-on term “Social Justice Warriors” become the vague “Virtue Signalers”?
I’m sure the deceitful SJW Left had something to do with it.
Call them Social Justice Warriors, not “Virtue Signalers” whatever that is.
He was quite adamant about the signaling — seemingly to justify his tweet that described Mark Kelly as a traitor. I share his contempt especially as it relates to the pointless death of men on both sides.
Two nations are being destroyed by this catostrophic, needless war. The only people benefiting and cheering it on are the neo con globalists who view nationalism as the greatest obstacle to their sick vision.
The nazification of America.
Elon Musk is a Nazi.
Brought to you courteous of Russian propaganda.
https://youtu.be/MN7KW4tUnSk?feature=shared
"In the run-up to the 2023 Polish parliamentary election, TVP was designated as a "propaganda arm" of PiS by European media[4] and as "a factory of hate" by the Polish opposition.[6] However, after the electoral victory of the opposition party the Civic Platform in 2023, a newly-appointed Minister of Culture began a restructuring of the broadcaster and its news segment, which still resulted in bias against the opposition (PiS). On December 27, 2023, the Minister of Culture and National Heritage, due to the President's veto on the financing of the company, placed it in liquidation.Here's the Social Blade documentation on the YouTube channel with about 2K subscribers: TVP WorldWIKI: Telewizja Polska
I guess you didn’t watch the Russian propaganda segments.
Russian foreign minister compares Trump’s ‘America First’ to Nazi propaganda
Such attacks are nothing new, of course. The Kremlin has a long history of branding critics and adversaries as Nazis that can be traced all the way back to the height of the Cold War. When the Hungarians rebelled against Soviet occupation in 1956, Moscow condemned the uprising as a “fascist rebellion” before sending in the tanks. It was a similar story during the Soviet suppression of the Prague Spring of 1968. Communist officials even referred to the Berlin Wall itself as “the Anti-Fascist Protective Wall.”
This trend survived the Soviet collapse and has been enthusiastically embraced by the Putin regime. Labeling opponents as Nazis is regarded as a particularly effective tactic in modern Russia as it strikes an emotive chord among audiences raised to revere the staggering Soviet sacrifices in the fight against Hitler’s Germany.
Sophomoric statement, all modern wars end in "negotiated peace", even when one side surrenders.
The borders have remained the same. For the past two years, dozens of people have died every week for nothing. For what?
Trump wants peace, Ukraine has agreed to a ceasefire, only(no surprise), Putin refuses to stop invading Ukraine and in fact when speaking to submariners, Putin smugly declared: 'Not long ago I said we'd grind [Ukraine] down — now it looks like we'll finish them off.
So what is Musk's answer?
“Sophomoric statement, all modern wars end in “negotiated peace”, even when one side surrenders.”
That is an ignorant statement. World War II did not end with negotiations, in either front.
I guess you did. I generally don't watch YouTube videos -- in this case a Polish channel for English speakers about Russians and Ukrainians who speak Russian and Ukrainian, and not a similar video for Polish speakers either, by the way -- and, for the Russian-speaking section, sourced by Russian Media Monitor, who is Julia Davis, as you should know. Julia Davis (journalist)
That there are some Russian jackasses on Russian channels isn't great news, because there are American jackasses on American channels, and (add most nation's names here) ....
I guess you didn't read the Wiki article on TVP. Maybe you'll read the Wiki on Julia Davis, columnist at The Daily Beast. And her take on Tulsi Gabbard, who just happens to be in President Trump's cabinet.....
By the way, here is Julia Davis' comment on a photo she posted to X in 2020, with the words, "What a shot."
Our President Trump is working to better diplomatic links to Russia, all in the context of the crises in Ukraine, Iran, Yemen, Israel and beyond. I'll go with his agenda, and accomplishments as they continue to develop.
Did Elon just let the cat out of the bag? Is the entire negotiating process simply a charade to give in to Russia? When one starts a negotiation process by conceding every point demanded by the adversary, one has already violated the ground rules of, THE ART OF THE DEAL, and one leaves oneself very little with which to negotiate except to "simply give in to Russia."
When Elon ads, "They just want that to continue forever," he makes an allegation that is below the belt and unworthy of a champion who is doing so much for America.
Even the Ukrainians, whose decision it is, not Donald Trump's, to risk their lives for their liberty, want the war to end but, like American patriots in 1776, they want the war to end for the reasons they began to fight in the first place.
When Elon says, "people that are dying every day in trenches for no movement in the lines," he inadvertently cites a fact that offers grounds to believe that a negotiated settlement is possible without giving in to Russia. The Russians are losing men at a debilitating rate, by one account 900,000 dead, and their economy is inflating so that their interest rates have flown to 21%.
It is by no means inevitable that Ukraine must lose, unless we make it so by assuming it. Putin, for his part, dares not assume it if he fears for his life as he looks over his shoulder. He needs to end this war too and he cannot know how much more time he has to squander cannon fodder and distort his economy.
Despite the shibboleth thrown out by those who would end the war by surrendering to every Russian demand, Putin might think, but he cannot be sure, that he has the winning hand. There were many negotiating pressures that could have been brought to bear to force Putin to make reasonable settlement accommodation. That opportunity, alas, has been squandered.
Now, we have so weakened the Ukrainians with our intermeddling that they must either surrender (while also surrendering the mineral riches of their country to the Intermeddler) or bleed and die even more.
The Ukraine war is a human disaster for which America itself deserves much of the blame. It ill becomes us now to speak of contempt for those whom we inveigled into the war and for those who support them in their struggle.
“I guess you didn’t read the Wiki article”
I guess you didn’t get the memo. Wiki is an unreliable source.
This war is basically a stalemate and any further fighting won’t change that...the Iran-Iraq war went on for 8 years and they could have gotten the same deal in year 3 and saved hundreds of thousands of lives.
People are pawns and tax payers to these so called leaders. No wonder Elon has disdain for them, I share that disdain.
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