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Trump officials ‘inadvertently’ include a reporter in their Yemen chat -- One person argues that the reporter was deliberately included to get out a message
American Thinker ^ | 03/25/2025 | Andrea Widburg

Posted on 03/25/2025 7:39:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Allegedly, a chat among high-level Trump administration officials, including the Vice President, somehow included a reporter for the Atlantic. It looks like a mistake so bad that it would embarrass Biden, but one person has an interesting theory, which is that the reporter was included deliberately to get a message to Europe.

Jeffrey Goldberg, a hard-left, anti-Trump reporter, had the headline and, for those who prefer their administration to be competent, it was stomach-churning: “The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Its War Plans.”

According to Goldberg, he learned about the March 15 attack on the Houthis two hours before it actually happened, although he did not broadcast that information. The reason he had this inside knowledge, he says, is because “Pete Hegseth, the secretary of defense, had texted me the war plan at 11:44 a.m. The plan included precise information about weapons packages, targets, and timing.”

Goldberg explains that the message to join the conversation came to him from a “Michael Waltz” via Signal, which is a publicly available, albeit encrypted app, one that journalists often use. Although Goldberg suspected the sender was someone pretending to be Waltz, he nevertheless accepted the request.

Two days later, he found himself part of a Signal chat group entitled the “Houthi PC small group.” Sure enough, it seemed to be the real deal; that is, a chat including people such as Vice President JD Vance, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, all discussing plans to attack the Houthis.

At this point, were Goldberg principled, he might have said, “Hey, guys! Are you sure I’m supposed to be included in this conversation?” But Goldberg is both a journalist and a leftist. Between a scoop and one-upping the Trump administration, that was an impossible option


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Yemen
KEYWORDS: 20250315; chat; goldberg; houthihysteria; houthis; jeffreygoldberg; signal; signalgate; theatlantic
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Cynical Publius, a conservative on X who claims a military background, offers a different theory. He did acknowledge, via a link to an essay from The Hacker News, that it could be Russian disinformation.

However, the more interesting theory is that this was a set-up, with government officials intentionally “mistakenly” including Goldberg to get a message out to the European political community:

The most interesting part of the tweet is the last sentence:

Re: the Signal chat and The Atlantic article.

The minute I read the chat my very first thought was that Goldberg was specifically and deliberately included so that he would leak what he saw to the public.  The idea was to let Europe know just how unhappy American leadership is with Europe's unwillingness to pull its weight militarily.  The backchannel, seemingly accidental nature of that reveal was powerful and I believe intentional.

Also, as someone who has read his fair share of Top Secret/SCI war plans, this ain't it. (Emphasis mine.)

Once the tweet got traction, Cynical Publius updated the tweet to acknowledge that this could well have been a dreadful mistake or the work of a single bad actor in the chat. However, he also said that we’d be wise not to trust Jeffrey Goldberg based on the latter’s history:

1 posted on 03/25/2025 7:39:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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2 posted on 03/25/2025 7:40:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Latest Tweet by Cynical Publius on X:

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Alright, listen up.

I threw out a theory that the Goldberg chat may have been a set-up. That theory is getting a lot of visibility.

I still think it could have been. I also think it could have been a mistake. Or it could have been a traitor in the chat.

I don’t know, and anyone who thinks I cited my “first thoughts” theory for any reason other than to promote discussion is wrong.

I will stand by the following, however:

The chat Goldberg describes specifically and deliberately talked about classified information being shared on “the high side” (i.e., the classified SIPRNET), and every time Goldberg discusses what HE believes to be classified data he caveats it in the article with the word “conceivably.” I will not believe classified info was shared in the open until that fact is proven by someone other than Jeffrey Goldberg.

Remember this: Jeffrey Goldberg talked America into the 2003 invasion of Iraq with false stories about a Saddam/al Qaeda connection and he has steadfastly maintained that Donald Trump is a “de facto agent” of Vladimir Putin.

My “first thoughts” theory might be wrong. But the fact that Jeffrey Goldberg cannot be trusted to speak truthfully is not wrong.


3 posted on 03/25/2025 7:41:54 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Some staffer set Pete up to look bad


4 posted on 03/25/2025 7:43:23 AM PDT by bigbob (Yes. We ARE going back!)
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RE: Some staffer set Pete up to look bad

We seriously need an investigation into this. It’s a serious security breach.

Who will do it though? FBI? NSA?


5 posted on 03/25/2025 7:45:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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I’m not even sure I believe any of it yet.


6 posted on 03/25/2025 7:45:08 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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Yep.....of all people right?


7 posted on 03/25/2025 7:45:49 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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a personal take...”LOOK! SQUIRREL!”.


8 posted on 03/25/2025 7:47:03 AM PDT by Qwapisking ("The left will rue the day they cheated Trump out of the 2020 election forever" L.Star )
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The real question is why they have reporters in their devices in the first place. Why would they EVER send ANY message to reporters directly, and not through official channels.


9 posted on 03/25/2025 7:47:47 AM PDT by GrumpyOldGuy
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He doesn’t look bad

They loathe European ingrates’ freeloading off our youngest and brightest.


10 posted on 03/25/2025 7:48:27 AM PDT by stanne (Because they were mesmerized by Obama, the man for whom this was named, whose name they left out of )
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RE: Why would they EVER send ANY message to reporters directly, and not through official channels.

Official channels?

Like what? The e-mail Server in Hillary’s house?


11 posted on 03/25/2025 7:48:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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If this story dies suddenly we know it was very shaky. Just remember what was done to Gen Flynn early in Trump’s first term. The press is not to be trusted.


12 posted on 03/25/2025 7:49:15 AM PDT by frogjerk
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Hard to think they could be this reckless and foolish to use a WhatsApp type of system to communicate this type of information
Let’s hope not.
This theory makes sense, it was done on purpose


13 posted on 03/25/2025 7:49:29 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (“I don’t really care, Margaret.”)
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Oh geeze. Hello!! Trump’s middle name is ‘look squirrel’

It’s a chapter in Sun Tshu’ art of war.


14 posted on 03/25/2025 7:49:50 AM PDT by stanne (Because they were mesmerized by Obama, the man for whom this was named, whose name they left out of )
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We may never know what actually happened here for sure.


15 posted on 03/25/2025 7:49:58 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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"The Hegseth account responded,

VP: I fully share your loathing of European free-loading. It’s PATHETIC."

Good on Hegseth.

Whether the inclusion of Goldberg was a set up or not, maybe in the future it wouls be a good way to make fools out of the Mockingbirds.

16 posted on 03/25/2025 7:50:04 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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There’s one person who looks worse than anyone else in all this, and that person is Jeffery Goldberg.

I find no fault in Hegseth.


17 posted on 03/25/2025 7:50:41 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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RE: If this story dies suddenly we know it was very shaky.

We’ll see what the Democrats do. If they think they can gain traction out of this, they and their MSM friends will not let it die and will harp on it every day until they get their pound of flesh — the resignation of Pete Hegseth or Mike Walz.


18 posted on 03/25/2025 7:51:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Uh-huh. As I stated from the outset, smells like BS.

And here we are.

2 things newly revealed:

1. “Although Goldberg suspected the sender was someone pretending to be Waltz...”
2. “...included precise information about weapons packages...”

I’ll just let those percolate...


19 posted on 03/25/2025 7:52:51 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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Yeah, I don’t buy the 4D chess theories - Occam’s Razor says this was just a screw up, apparently by Mike Waltz. It also was not a big deal, though I continue to wonder why Trump’s NSA director has Jeffrey Goldberg in his Signals contact list. If there are leaks regarding national security, I know who I’ll suspect.


20 posted on 03/25/2025 7:53:07 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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