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Flu deaths rise as anti-vaccine disinformation takes root (barf alert)
Stateline ^ | March 18, 2025 | Tim Henderson

Posted on 03/23/2025 5:44:27 PM PDT by DoodleBob

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A few facts:

-January 2025 was the coldest in the US since 2011,

-looking at the data at this CDC site: https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/datarequest/D176 :

-the CDC data for 2025 are still PROVISIONAL.

-It appears that the influenza-tagged death totals include instances where the virus was NOT identified AND the CONCURRENCE of other respiratory problems : J09 (Influenza due to identified avian influenza virus); J10.0 (Influenza with pneumonia, influenza virus identified); J10.1 (Influenza with other respiratory manifestations, influenza virus identified); J10.8 (Influenza with other manifestations, influenza virus identified); J11.0 (Influenza with pneumonia, virus not identified); J11.1 (Influenza with other respiratory manifestations, virus not identified); J11.8 (Influenza with other manifestations, virus not identified)

-If you ask JUST for J.09 deaths, NOTHING comes up.

-Deaths tagged J.10.1 (Influenza with other respiratory manifestations, influenza virus identified) comprise 1,094 and 2,602 of the provisional deaths for Jan + Feb 2024 and 2025, respectively, or 28-30% of the PROVISIONAL totals.

In other words, the hysteria is based on deaths where the influenza virus wasn’t identified AND provisional data. And frankly, a 138% increase in provisional influenza deaths to 2,602 in a nation of 330MM people given a really cold January 2025 isn’t getting me worried.

And the media wonder why they are viewed as a joke by normal Americans.

1 posted on 03/23/2025 5:44:27 PM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: DoodleBob

BS story


2 posted on 03/23/2025 5:49:38 PM PDT by tsowellfan (Trump did his part - Now we need to do ours - Contact our Reps and let them know where WE stand...)
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To: DoodleBob

Last 4 years numbers were so low cause they were all covid deaths, ya know.
Now they are complications from the vax, ya know.


3 posted on 03/23/2025 5:50:17 PM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT back in 2006)
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First of all, they just came out a couple of months ago stating the recent flu vaccine was completely ineffective.

So, there’s that.

That along with the fact that 70% of 3000+ worldwide COVID deaths this year are in the USA alone.


4 posted on 03/23/2025 5:52:03 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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The graph looks like it is giving me the finger.


5 posted on 03/23/2025 5:53:37 PM PDT by shelterguy
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I was wondering how many deaths were of people who had 2 or 3 Pfizer boosters. How many were elderly who were vitamin D deficient (as with covid).


6 posted on 03/23/2025 5:58:27 PM PDT by huldah1776
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Why was it zero in 2021?

WHY WAS IT ZERO IN 2021?


7 posted on 03/23/2025 5:59:34 PM PDT by struggle
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Some people die of the flu, while other people die of the flu shot. Predicting who will die in not predictable. But I'll take the chance with my immune system.

Quit the fear porn, now.

8 posted on 03/23/2025 6:03:27 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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Sadly, I’d expect to see a bit of a bump by the heavily vaxxinated. The Covid 19 ‘vax’ can cause ADE which would be clinically indistinguishable from flu or Covid19. The immune system is impaired and yet, it can overheat, causing cytokine storm..


9 posted on 03/23/2025 6:04:28 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: George from New England

Yep. And was there flu “disinformation” in 2018? Or just a rough flu season?


10 posted on 03/23/2025 6:08:33 PM PDT by MrRelevant
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How influenza data is classified and collected is the mystery box. Are the numbers of 2010 collected differently than in 2025?


11 posted on 03/23/2025 6:09:49 PM PDT by BigB60 (C. S. Lewis loves hobbits)
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...”with more deaths from flu AND OTHER CAUSES and as the state’s health care system struggles under the strain of flu patients.”


12 posted on 03/23/2025 6:11:08 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Democracy to Democrats is stealing other peoples money for their use, no matter how idiotic)
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President Trump has said hundreds of times that the vaccine and boosters saved 100s of millions of lives from COVID. He has said the COVID vaccine is a great accomplishment and his encouragement of the vaccine is a major reason the CDC is still strongly recommending the vaccine and asserting that it is “100% safe and effective.” So the poisoning continues and the deathcount rises well into the millions.


13 posted on 03/23/2025 6:21:38 PM PDT by Kentfromohio
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If any chart can undermine the veracity of the CDC, this one does. 2021-2022 number is a gross anomaly. Clearly, hospitals were diagnosing the flu as Covid to access federal dollars.


14 posted on 03/23/2025 6:23:03 PM PDT by BigB60 (C. S. Lewis loves hobbits)
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To: DoodleBob

Never had a flu shot, never plan to. I don’t recall ever having the flu, either, though perhaps I did when I was a little kid and just don’t remember it.

So far my immune system is working OK.


15 posted on 03/23/2025 6:34:21 PM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: tsowellfan

Exactly.


16 posted on 03/23/2025 6:46:02 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus)
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

Started taking D and zinc everyday in the winter for about the past 10 years.
Had almost no viral infections.

Did take ivermectin when I was exposed to Covid. My friends who didn’t were in bed for 5 days. When I got it sneezed times 5 times!


17 posted on 03/23/2025 6:49:22 PM PDT by lizma2 (Re-assignation on MLK Jr.)
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I suppose I was exposed to Covid but never got it as far as I know. I was taking D3 and zinc for a while, and I still have some horse paste around here somewhere.


18 posted on 03/23/2025 6:54:26 PM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: DoodleBob

Am I wrong in thinking the flu vaccine may not even be based on the most current strain?


19 posted on 03/23/2025 7:32:54 PM PDT by lastchance (Cognovit Dominus qui sunt eius.)
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Because everyone who got gassed er vaxxed has a damaged immune system. 🙄


20 posted on 03/23/2025 7:38:06 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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