Posted on 03/14/2025 5:11:37 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
President Donald Trump and European leaders cautiously welcomed Russia’s President Vladimir Putin saying he accepted the basic precepts of a ceasefire, but Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky warns Moscow demanding concessions is a “predictable” bid to derail talks altogether.
On Thursday, a delegation of American negotiators had talks in Moscow, Russia, in hope of agreeing step one of President Trump’s Ukraine peace plan, a 30-day ceasefire. President Putin said Russia supports the notion in general terms, but said “there are issues that we need to discuss, and I think that we need to discuss it with our American colleagues and partners” before actually agreeing.
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But she is dead set against Trump's foreign policy about Ukraine. She's very pro zelensky, wants all the land back that Russia took, and everything is Russian propaganda. Plus if we did the mineral deal she feels Ukraine should not pay the United States any money back.
“I don’t want to negotiate because that other guy is stubborn”
That is the epitome of irony/hypocrisy
too bad,so sad. me and wifey are both many generation AMERICANS and we both say NO! she can go back and fight but we just don’t care about two out of the three most corrupt nations on the planet decimating each other and not the least interested in footing the bill in any way, shape or form. period.
That woman should go back to YouCrayne and help rebuild it after the War.
She is YouCrayne First. America last.
The ones who are settled are generally “rah rah Ukraine, yeah Zelensky, fight on!” types of people. The recent arrivals tend to be “Zelensky is a faggot, just end the war already, we don’t need Crimea and Donbass”.
My observation is that it’s really easy to be pro-war when you don’t have personal skin in the game other than your patriotic feelings.
No nato membership, no western troops, no western weapons/support, no intel sharing, no biolabs, no land returned (autonomous region) and no sanctions.
And no zelensky. Mineral deal: Ok.
I fully expect Putin to lay it out essentially as I wrote it. I don’t find anything disagreeable except the decision to renew intel & arms to the ukes during ceasefire negotiations.
Denial of US/western involvement in creation of this quagmire only serves the narrow range of interests which brought us here and drained us of tens of billion$$.
She sounds ungrateful
She sounds.... ungrateful. Perhaps she would be happier back in the Ukraine?
And why is that OUR problem?
If she feels that strongly about Ukraine she should repatriate herself and fight for Ukraine standing on Ukrainian soil.
In the past week, in Kursk... 20,000+ KIA and 50,000+ WIA, and all who remain are surrounded. Hence, as Putin so apthly stated that Ukraine should have asked the USA to get the cease fire.... That the Uke’s were under threat from Trump to simply get them to show up and Zelinski spout off about never recognizing any Russian gains on the Ground.
Putin furthe stated that the Uke’s have singular choice now, e.g., either surrender or die.
Ukraine must state that they will halt all resupply and strengthening of their positions before a cease fire is enacted.
The freeze Putin demands is that all movement is frozen.
Thus, even Trump will not be able to move the Brits who own the Uke’s on the issue of cease fire.
Time to die.
She voted for Trump but this Ukraine stuff gets her all worked up.
“Zelensky’s assertions are certainly based in fact, even if Ukraine has been guilty of much of the same in the past.”
I don’t know why people are getting bent out of shape with every word that Putin and Zelensky say. They are both circling each other, doing their dance to get an advantage. This is the negotiating phase; they want to be able to save face and be seen as strong, and Trump’s team has to take precautions to allow each side make concessions as a sign of dealing from strength.
It is going to be difficult.
“The recent arrivals tend to be “Zelensky is a faggot, just end the war already, we don’t need Crimea and Donbass”.”
Tell me about it! I do think Trump has realized that we never had Crimea and Donbass and we did JUST FINE without it. And even if Trump wanted it, he knows it would take WW3 to get it...if anyone is even around to grab it at that point.
I have a polish friend who went through a minefield to escape communism. The polish aren’t fans of Ukraine or Russia, but they apparently (for good reason) hate the Russians more. He wants the war to continue, says the Russians are all propaganda all of the time, and see little z as a hero. He does laugh when I call Putin “Vlad the Invader”.
“She voted for Trump but this Ukraine stuff gets her all worked up.”
I really doubt that Victoria Nuland voted for Trump.
MY coworker is the same
I got it!
She's FOR Trump except when she's NOT FOR Trump!
She HATES his foreign policy with Ukraine. She thinks he is getting bad advice and should not treat the situation like a business deal
Putin raised some important points in his public response to a 30 day ceasefire.
1) How does the ceasefire get implemented along a 2000km front line?
2) Are weapon shipments halted during the ceasefire?
3) Are military forces left in place or are they allowed to move?
4) who enforces the ceasefire and what are the consequences for breaking it?
5) what happens to negotiations during the ceasefire?
The Russians aren’t going to agree to a ceasefire that puts them at a disadvantage and who can blame them?
It’s not about what Putin wants; he wants Ukraine and all the former Soviet territory back. It’s about what he and the Ukrainians will be compelled to accept.
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