Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Our crashing, rusty U.S. Navy
American Thinker ^ | 02/28/2025 | Mike McDaniel

Posted on 02/28/2025 8:16:54 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Normal Americans have noticed many of the inestimable benefits of the Harris/Biden DEI years. To be fair, Barack Obama gave Biden’s handlers a real leg up on DEI, but the handlers really ran with it. Among the most noticeable of those "benefits" has been a dramatic increase not only of US Navy ships that look like third world rust buckets, but an equally dramatic apparent increase in those rust buckets running into other ships and geographic features.

It's unusually difficult to find current data on ship collisions. There’s quite a bit of information on the 2017 collisions of the destroyers McCain and Fitzgerald which killed 17 sailors, but there’s little information from 2017 to 2025. The previous link contains interviews with several Admirals. Their primary message is Navy culture is bad, maintenance is equally bad, manpower is scarce and they’re poorly trained and the Navy is being asked to do too much with too few ships and inadequate manpower. All of which led to this:

Graphic: Specialist Jose Hernandez, Public Domain

"The Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75) was involved in a collision with the merchant vessel Besiktas-M at approximately 11:46 p.m. local time, Feb. 12, while operating in the vicinity of Port Said, Egypt, in the Mediterranean Sea," the Navy's Sixth Fleet Public Affairs said in a statement earlier this week. 

"The collision did not endanger the Harry S. Truman (CVN 75) as there are no reports of flooding or injuries. The propulsion plants are unaffected and in a safe and stable condition," it added. 

The Navy said the incident is now "under investigation." 


(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: defense; military; navy
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-50 next last

1 posted on 02/28/2025 8:16:54 AM PST by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

So I’m not the only one who noticed that aircraft carrier in the collision looked like an ancient 3rd world rustbucket freighter?


2 posted on 02/28/2025 8:20:45 AM PST by EnderWiggin1970
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: EnderWiggin1970

Ordering a sailor to chip rust and paint is “actual violence.”

;-)


3 posted on 02/28/2025 8:27:30 AM PST by Blueflag (To not carry is to choose to be defenseless.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: EnderWiggin1970

I have been told that the “environmental friendly” coatings picked by the Obama Administration for Navy ships do not hold up to the constant action of seawater.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2023/06/navsea-comments-on-rusty-u-s-navy-ships-and-new-paint-coatings/


4 posted on 02/28/2025 8:28:47 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Ships are yester years technology and until we get on with new age technology articles then we’ll continue to lag behind. Articles such as this pumping up naval aircraft are an indication of ignorance of achieving advancement.


5 posted on 02/28/2025 8:29:56 AM PST by Jarhead9297
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Blueflag
Ordering a sailor to chip rust and paint is “actual violence.”

I agree. Been there done that...

6 posted on 02/28/2025 8:32:38 AM PST by EVO X ( )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Jarhead9297

I’ve grown increasingly skeptical as to the survivability of any surface ships against a peer or near peer enemy. In an age of satellites, hypersonic missiles, AI directed drone swarms, etc I think we should be putting more of our resources into attack submarines.


7 posted on 02/28/2025 8:32:59 AM PST by FLT-bird
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

The USN is victim to the outlawing of the proper paint primers like ‘Red Lead’. So you build a billion dollar Aegis destroyer paint it with some crapola modern primer and watch it return from a deployment looking like a 30 year old scrapper. Seems to me that the DoD could get a waiver for something like this. I mean it’s only taxpayer money that we’re wasting.


8 posted on 02/28/2025 8:33:42 AM PST by Tallguy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FLT-bird

Subs are goners in a war. Easily tracked and destroyed.


9 posted on 02/28/2025 8:34:24 AM PST by CodeToad ( )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: mad_as_he$$

That’s everywhere in industry. You pay ungodly amounts for paint & primer these days and the stuff is finicky to apply. Primers don’t ‘stick’ and consequently the top coats just peel. Low-VOC paints just s—k.


10 posted on 02/28/2025 8:37:11 AM PST by Tallguy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad

If they pumped as much money into the Stealth Fighter to subvert tracking radar they could with Subs as well. The bottom line is Ships are ancient technology and an ancient way of thinking


11 posted on 02/28/2025 8:37:55 AM PST by Jarhead9297
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Jarhead9297

People seem to claim stealth is completely and totally invisible to radar. Not true.

Stealth doesn’t really work as publicly claimed by people on the Internet. Stealth aircraft can see each other, just not from hundreds of miles away. Stealth is detectable by ground systems just fine too.

Subs have detection problems simply due to their size.


12 posted on 02/28/2025 8:41:07 AM PST by CodeToad ( )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

I hope they are better than when I served in the Air Navy during Vietnam. Most people don’t know that we were losing at least one fighter jet a month on our carriers, but not to combat, but crash landings (missing the wires and running off the end etc.)


13 posted on 02/28/2025 8:42:03 AM PST by Eli Kopter (Gentle elves set light to lead the Faroes on the starry way from age to age - U. of Faroe Islands)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jarhead9297

We could save trillions getting rid of stealth and subs.

Some stealth technology does OK and is cheap, but most of it is a terrible waste of money.


14 posted on 02/28/2025 8:42:22 AM PST by CodeToad ( )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

I served aboard a destroyer. That thing was breaking down all the time. We spent a year in dry dock, and when we were leaving the dock, we broke down within 10 minutes and had to be towed back.


15 posted on 02/28/2025 8:42:39 AM PST by roving (Deplorable MAGA Garbage )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tallguy
The USN is victim to the outlawing of the proper paint primers like ‘Red Lead’

It has been so long ago I forgot what the name of primer was, but it was a 2 part mix and was green when throughly mixed. We had to use respirators when applying it.

16 posted on 02/28/2025 8:43:27 AM PST by EVO X ( )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Tallguy

Yup. I had one of my crews spray a bunch of equipment with some new one part water-based paint 3 months later it was all peeling off and they followed the instructions to a “t”.


17 posted on 02/28/2025 8:45:47 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: EVO X

I think ‘red lead’ goes back to WW2/Korea/Vietnam. May have been replaced, then replaced again. Driven by EPA and OSHA rule-making. Coatings need to be durable. That seems to have been lost as a priority.


18 posted on 02/28/2025 8:47:10 AM PST by Tallguy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: EnderWiggin1970
So I’m not the only one who noticed that aircraft carrier in the collision looked like an ancient 3rd world rustbucket freighter?

Definitely not the only one. I'm a Navy vet. When photos first came out showing the current condition of the Truman, I was shocked, and commented on it among family and friends multiple times since.

19 posted on 02/28/2025 8:55:52 AM PST by Avalon Memories ( I voted Trump-Vance on 1st day of NC early voting. Go Trump-Vance!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Tallguy
May have been replaced, then replaced again. Driven by EPA and OSHA rule-making

Agreed.

20 posted on 02/28/2025 8:58:55 AM PST by EVO X ( )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-50 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson