"And I put $20 billion in an offshore bank for you, Joe just like Hunter told me to."
Posted on 02/24/2025 4:43:51 AM PST by hardspunned
Zelensky denies owing $100B (or the $500B Trump claimed), saying all aid was grants. But is that true? Let’s break it down.
Lend-lease and military aid
Biden signed a lend-lease law in May 2022, like in WWII. But it was never used and expired in Sept 2023; instead, the US gave weapons for free, per Ukrainian media. ⚔️
Grants, not loans?
Since Feb 2022, the US approved $175B for Ukraine’s war effort:
✅ $120B went directly to Ukraine as grants, as per CSIS 🎁
✅ $55B went to US industries, Pentagon and global aid groups 🏭
But what about loans?
🔹 April 2024: US gave Ukraine $9.4B as a forgivable loan 🏦
🔹 Nov 2024: Biden moved to cancel $4.7B (50%), per Bloomberg ❌
🔹 Remaining $4.7B might be written off after Jan 2026, per Fox News
So, what’s the debt?
As of now, Ukraine technically owes $4.7B to US taxpayers - but that could be canceled too.
(Excerpt) Read more at x.com ...
The reason DC didn’t dare call these scam payments loans is because everyone knew half of was earmarked to be laundered and scammed away.
The first thing that needs to be done is a full audit of the DC Uke bonanza. Can Elon track offshore bank accounts to get some of our laundered billions back from the DC crooks?
Yeah, Trump has the pressure grip on the little twerp. Pretty soon Zelensky will be telling Trump what you just posted and then “BAM”. Got them!
Anyone else wondering how much US taxpayer money that was laundered through Ukraine was going to prop up the UK’s and the EU’s welfare states...?
Source: US Dept of State web site
Excerpt: To date, we have provided Ukraine $65.9 billion in military assistance since Russia’s initial invasion of Ukraine in 2014. We have now used the emergency Presidential Drawdown Authority on 55 occasions since August 2021 to provide Ukraine military assistance totaling approximately $27.688 billion from DoD stockpiles.
Long list of weaponry at web site
Presidential Drawdown Authority (PDA)
Pursuant to a delegation by the President, we have used the emergency Presidential Drawdown Authority on 55 occasions since August 2021 to provide Ukraine military assistance totaling approximately $31.7 billion from DoD stockpiles.
On September 26, 2024, the Department notified Congress of the intent to direct the drawdown of up to approximately $5.55 billion in defense articles and services from DoD stocks for military assistance to Ukraine under Presidential Drawdown Authority. This drawdown, if directed, will utilize the remaining authority of the Presidential Drawdown Authority under section 506(a)(1) of the Foreign Assistance for fiscal year 2024 provided by the Ukraine Security Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2024 (Div. B, P.L. 118-50) (USSAA), which will expires on September 30, 2024. As a result of this planned drawdown, the United States will be able to continue to provide defense articles and services to Ukraine from DoD stocks under Presidential Drawdown Authority on a continual basis and remains available for Ukraine regardless of the end of the fiscal year.
On August 14, 2023, the Department announced the first of several packages utilizing previously authorized PDA Authority. During DoD’s regular oversight of their execution of previous Presidential Drawdown Authority for Ukraine, they discovered that they had been incorrectly overvaluing the weapons and equipment in previous PDAs that had been authorized or Ukraine. DoD then undertook a review using the appropriate accounting method, which restored $6.2 billion that can be used under Congressionally authorized drawdown authority to provide arms and equipment to meet Ukraine’s urgent security requirements. As PDA is an authority, not a funding source, once notified to Congress there is no ‘expiration date’ for the provision of defense articles and services up to the value that was notified. Any additional space within the previously notified PDAs, identified as a result of DOD’s recalculation of the value of previous PDAs therefore remains available for Ukraine regardless of the end of the fiscal year.
Security Assistance
To date, Congress has appropriated $4.65 billion in Foreign Military Financing (FMF) across two supplemental packages for Ukraine and “countries impacted by the situation in Ukraine.” Of this total, $4 billion has been notified to Congress. The first Ukraine supplemental also provided $4 billion in FMF loan authority and $4 billion in loan guarantees to NATO Allies.
In FY 2023, DoD provided $12.1 billion in security assistance to Ukraine under the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative (USAI) in eight separate tranches.
In FY 2023, the Department notified Congress of our intent to make an additional $1.1 billion in long-term investments with FMF to bolster the security of Ukraine and 13 regional partners and allies in Europe who are at risk from potential future Russian aggression. These funds will help our allies and partners in the region to backfill military capabilities they have donated to Ukraine, enable new donations to Ukraine, and support longer-term military requirements in both the broader region and in Ukraine itself. On September 6, 2023, the Secretary announced an additional $100 million in Foreign Military Financing to support Ukraine’s longer-term military requirements.
On September 8, 2022, the Department notified Congress of our intent to make a further $2.2 billion available in long-term investments under Foreign Military Financing (FMF) to bolster the security of Ukraine and 17 of its regional neighbors; including both many of our NATO allies as well as other regional security partners who are most potentially at risk for future Russian aggression. These funds will help our allies and partners who have provided security assistance to Ukraine backfill their capabilities.
On April 24, 2022, the Department notified Congress of its intention to obligate more than $713 million in Foreign Military Financing funding for Ukraine and 15 other Allied and partner nations in Central and Eastern Europe and the Balkans. Assistance in this Notification will help NATO Allies backfill capabilities they have donated to Ukraine from their own stockpiles to retain and strengthen NATO deterrence.
In FY 2022, DoD provided $6.3 billion in security assistance to Ukraine under the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative (USAI) in seven separate tranches. All the FY2022 USAI funds appropriated by Congress have now been committed. In FY 2021, Ukraine received $275 million under DoD’s Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative (USAI). This included $75 million in lethal assistance.
In FY 2021, the Department provided Ukraine $115 million in Foreign Military Financing (FMF) and $3 million in International Military Education and Training (IMET) funding. Prior to Russia’s renewed invasion, FMF supported Ukraine’s acquisition of a wide array of capabilities including counter-mortar radars, secure radios, vehicles, electronic equipment, small arms and light weapons, and medical supplies, among others. The Global Security Contingency Fund, a joint program of the U.S. Departments of State and Defense, has provided more than $42 million in training, advisory services, and equipment to assist the Government of Ukraine to further develop the tactical, operational, and institutional capacities of its Special Operations Forces, National Guard, conventional forces, non-commissioned officer corps, and combat medical care since 2014.
Excess Defense Articles (EDA) On February 20, 2022, the United States utilized the Excess Defense Articles program to transfer Mi-17 helicopters to Ukraine.
Since 2018, the United States has provided Ukraine with four refitted U.S. Coast Guard Island-Class cutters. The refit was funded with Ukrainian national funds and FMF. Additional vessels are pending transfer.
Third Party Transfers (TPT)
In advance of Russia’s invasion and after the outbreak of war in February 2022, the United States approved Third Party Transfers from 14 NATO Allies and close partners to provide U.S.-origin equipment from their inventories for use by Ukrainian forces. Deliveries to date include almost 12,000 anti-armor systems of all types; more than 1,550 anti-air missiles; radars; night vision devices; machine guns; rifles and ammunition; and body armor. The contributions from our partners and Allies are vital and appreciated.
Foreign Military Sales
The United States has $595.9 million in active government-to-government sales cases with Ukraine under the Foreign Military Sales (FMS) system. FMS sales notified to Congress are listed on the DSCA website, and significant prior sales include the: 2022 sale of non-standard artillery ammunition; 2018 sale of 210 Javelin anti-armor missiles, which first provided Ukraine with a critical anti-armor capability; the 2019 sale of 150 additional Javelins; and the 2020 Mark VI patrol boats sale. The Javelin sales were funded by a mixture of State Department FMF funds and Ukrainian national funds.
Direct Commercial Sales
From 2015 through 2023, the United States also authorized the permanent export of over $1.6 billion in defense articles and services to Ukraine via Direct Commercial Sales (DCS). The top categories of DCS exports to Ukraine during that period were Fire Control, Laser, Imaging, and Guidance Equipment, ($339.1 million); Personal Protective Equipment ($247.3 million); and Ammunition and Ordnance ($232 million).
Conventional Weapons Destruction
On September 30, 2022 the Department awarded $47.6 million to Tetra Tech to launch a large-scale train and equip project to strengthen the Government of Ukraine’s demining and explosive ordnance disposal (EOD) capacity. This project forms part of the $91.5 million in assistance that the Department will provide over FY2023 to help the Government of Ukraine address the urgent humanitarian challenges posed by explosive remnants of war created by Russia’s brutal war of aggression. On September 6, 2023, the Department announced an additional $90.5 million in humanitarian demining assistance.
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Loans or grants, however we define the huge amount of money that was squandered.
We need to get it back - or take it back.
The killer comment for me was when the Ukes (recently) stated that if they “didn’t get the promised billions in US aid money, then they couldn’t pay their retirees pensions”. I do not want my money going to foreign retirement systems...I want it to go towards our retirees who actually paid into the system.
I’m waiting for Graham to speak up. He knows this stuff inside and out.
Keep in mind Europe wants the Ukraine to join the EU and not the US. All of the instability in the Ukraine was conjured by Europe, who went out of their way the rub Russia’s face in it every chance they got. Outright theft of money Russia had in western banks, seizing every asset they could get their hands on. Basically doing everything they could to jam up Russia.
Now that Russia didn’t fall like their experts said they have a real problem. The blew through any hope of getting Russia to trust the west in any agreement. People say Russia needs containment but that wasn’t a problem before the west started interfering and it’s the work product of western intelligence.
Considering how Biden’s mind “works”, he probably thought he’d pay for it by forgiving some student loan debt. /s
Sputnik is on Zelensky’s side?
There was also aid to keep their private citizens in business and pension payments.
If they didn’t get this money and aid then a lot of people in Congress, government workers and Biden administration need to go to jail.
Can I post a Hill article?
"And I put $20 billion in an offshore bank for you, Joe just like Hunter told me to."
I did not read every word of your post but while looking it over I did not see the word “loan” used. Did I miss it?
“Europe wants the Ukraine to join the EU and not the US“.
If the EU wanted Ukraine to join they would have them join. But they have not. The EU does not want Ukraine.
Not only that but you do realize how much is stolen by Uke oligarchs?!? If we’re sending that money to be stolen, I want good old DC crooked politicians and oligarchs stealing it!
Sputnik generally tells the truth about Ukraine. This is just another example of it.
That’s approximately 10%.
the above link might help
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