Posted on 02/20/2025 3:09:30 PM PST by Navy Patriot
Lawyer Bob Amsterdam, in a conversation with Tucker Carlson, stated that Americans must make it clear to the Ukrainian authorities that banning a Church is unacceptable.
"This law in Ukraine, Law 3894, is one of the most dangerous legislative acts I have ever seen," Amsterdam emphasized, also mentioning that the Estonian government is attempting to ban the Orthodox Church as well.
He argued that even if the UOC were not separate from Russia, a democratic state still cannot ban religious denominations.
"In a state based on the rule of law, you prosecute people who commit offenses. You do not ban a Church," the lawyer stressed.
Carlson supported his view. "If you start banning people’s religions, then how are you any better than what you claim to oppose?" he asked rhetorically.
Speaking about the U.S. Congress and House of Representatives, Amsterdam stated, "We want people to talk to the Ukrainians and simply explain to the Ukrainians that this law to ban our church is unacceptable – especially since we are paying for it."
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Orthodox Interest Ping.
Banning the UOC was all I needed to know about “Z”. Yes, that’s what a dictator does.
Russian been using this group as a military and propaganda
site for years .
Please stop peddling Butcher Putin talking points .
Its embarrassing .
According to certain people, the Orthodox Church were all agents of Putin.
Told me all I needed to know about them.
If you know the history of the region, you would know that Orthodoxy was used by Peter the Great to divide Ukraine from the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, and until the Bolshevik revolution, was subservient to the tsars. After WWII, Stalin forced the Greek Catholics to renounce the pope and join the Orthodox Church. An Orthodox Church taking orders from Moscow is a threat during a war. The rules are different during a war. Ukraine doesn’t want Russia spying on Ukraine through the Russian Orthodox Church.
Patently and obviously False.
Zeepers have been using this as military disinformation and propaganda for years.
Please stop peddling Butcher Zelensky's Biden talking points.
Are we talking about the Ukrainian Orthodox Church or the Orthodox Church of Ukraine? Because they are not the same.
The Ukrainian Orthodox Church is an offshoot of the Russian Orthodox Church and is controlled from Russia.
The Orthodox Church of Ukraine split off from the Russian church and only answers to itself. Most churches in Ukraine are now OCU, but there are enough UOC churches to cause problems.
America went through the same thing with the Anglican Church during the revolutionary war. The churches that broke away from the control of England became the Episcopal Church.
And I don’t care who is in Ukraine as long as US dollars or troops are not involved.
Stalin may call me from Georgia if it is more convenient for him.
You are correct, and it is a very important point, because we are talking about both churches.
The US gave USAID money to Zelensky-OCU, a Shill "church" to demonize and destroy UOC, a Legacy Orthodox Church that was Historically associated with the Russian Orthodox Church.
Zelensky then Outlawed the UOC and confiscated everything, while lauding the OCU.
During WW2, the Pope basically reported to the Axis (as part of the deal to protect the Vatican). I don’t remember FDR SEIZING Catholic Churches in the US and JAILING their clergy.
Amazing what levels these psycho Russia-haters have descended to.
This is the thing about these stupid ethnic wars Europe is always having. Centuries of useless recriminations from both sides. We don’t care about this crap. Many of our ancestors left Europe to get away from this garbage. Don’t bring it here.
The true Orthodox Church of Ukraine its the one under Metropolitan Onufriy. Both the Orthodox Church in America and the Serbian Orthodox Church recognize it!
Yes, this church is under the Moscow Patriarchate. However, it is autonomous!
The bogus church body pushed by Zelenski is nothing but a scam, headed by defrocked laymen posing as hierarchs. Any peace in Ukraine must include recognition of the true Orthodox Church of Ukraine, and restoration of all its parishes and other properties. Zelenski and his bogus “church” must go!
Any peace in Ukraine must include recognition of the true Orthodox Church of Ukraine, and restoration of all its parishes and other properties.
Fully Agree!!
Thanks for the additional information, Honorary!
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