Posted on 02/17/2025 9:31:34 AM PST by marshmallow
"We Europeans will not allow that. Nor will we allow anyone to agree on the demilitarization of Ukraine," he said
BERLIN, February 17. /TASS/. The European Union must take part in the negotiations on the settlement of the Ukrainian conflict and make sure that nobody agrees to Ukraine's demilitarization, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said.
Scholz rejected the possibility of exclusive US-Russian agreements on Ukraine. "We Europeans will not allow that. Nor will we allow anyone to agree on the demilitarization of Ukraine," he said during an election debate. At the same time, the German chancellor reiterated that Ukraine needs a strong army.
"It cannot be done without us. Of course, we have something to say," Scholz said, reacting to the US statement that Europe would not be physically present at the table to negotiate a settlement to the conflict. At the same time, Scholz emphasized that Europeans have the right to vote. Security guarantees without Europe's participation "will not happen," he said.
Earlier, US President Donald Trump's special envoy for Ukraine and Russia Keith Kellogg said that Europe would not be physically present at the negotiating table. According to him, there is now a two-track approach to the peace talks: US representatives interacting separately with Russia and separately with Ukraine along with allies. At the same time, Kellogg made it clear that Europe's interests would be taken into account.
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Fine, then America can just remove all its weapons and let Europe fight
Any country that wants to defend its border needs a military.

This Scholtz?
I missed the part were Europe has any real say in the matter?
What exactly are they going to do, declare war on the USA? LOL these pettycrats are literally delusional
“Fine, then America can just remove all its weapons and let Europe fight”
We need to get our money back. Especially the money that was transferred back to the politicians in Washington.
The Ukraine has lost the war and there is nothing short of all out WWIII that could stop Russia from over running the Ukraine in a matter of weeks if the Russians choose to do so.
If the Europeans wanted to negotiate peace in Ukraine they should have done so long ago but they actively obstructed any peace negotiations and did everything they could to escalate and expand the war.
This refusal has cost over a million extra and totally unnecessary casualties on top of the existing half a million when it was obvious that Ukraine had lost the war.
Europe is not a rational player.
With USAID shit down and the other US Tax dollar liberal scams being exposed I doubt Europe has any money to do anything. They can’t even fund the own military without Daddy Deep pockets USA pouring funds into their countries.
That is been one to the big revelations, they are broke and used US tax dollars to do all their dirt literal deeds. Now they have to find a way to actually have a budget and run the countries, I hold little hope for them.
After 47 agrees to Putin’s terms of abandoning NATO and Europe, the wold will be completely destabilized and wars will break out everywhere, especially in Europe as Putin connects Belarus with Kaliningrad, and China moves on Taiwan.
47 will go down in American history books as a peacemaker, while the rest of the world burns, due to his inept and naive foreign policy.
Sometimes it is not about the Art of the Deal.
A nuclear-armed Russia will not passively accept "collapse". If (big "if") it's going down, much of Europe will be turned into ashes. The West knows this and does not want "collapse" of Russia.
What the West wants is regime change in Russia. The objective is to kill enough Russians to foment a color revolution and the replacement of Putin with a Slavic version of Justin Trudeau; a 'woke" rainbow-friendly, globalist.
Weep for us some more - neocon loser BITCH.
Declare war on the EU.
It would be cheaper and easier.
Lol.
Most of the war-talk and saber-rattling in the world is coming from NATO. The world has flipped 180 degrees since 1962. NATO's full court press on Russia has naturally elicited blowback but Russia is not the problem. The problem is the godless secular humanists in the West and their NWO military wing, NATO, who are recklessly pushing their globalist, rainbow agenda down everyone's throat.
Meanwhile he held back military support for Ukraine.
US out of NATO and UN.
Sounds like something I’d hear on an old Art Bell radio segment … or maybe on a recent podcast from one of the sensationalist nitwits who post regularly here on FR.
FU, Fritz!
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