Posted on 02/14/2025 1:27:44 PM PST by Pollard
NTSB Media Briefing 5 - PSA Airlines Bombardier CRJ700 & Sikorsky H-60 military helicopter collision
Little over 6 minutes in;
Voice recording: Around the same point in time, flying pilot indicated altitude 300 ft. Instructor pilot indicated 400 ft and they did not have any conversation about the discrepancy.
Part of the training/certification was night vision and SOP is to converse when removing it but there was no such conversation so it is believed/assumed they were still wearing it.
It’s really coming down to the two helicopter pilots being at fault. Army got some explaining to do
Transgender murder/suicide? That is the question at hand.
Nope
There was no transgender on the helo. Debunked almost immediately.
Full up elevator on the CRJ just prior to impact. They saw the helicopter.
Half way through now and it seems the blackhawk might not have received all ACT transmissions and in one case, due to an 8 second mic trigger hold, as in someone’s not real skilled with the radio. They’re also getting discrepancies on the blackhawk’s altimeter(s) so that might have been faulty.
Bottom line; Both trainee and instructor are at fault. If you’re getting partial radio receptions that don’t make sense due to being incomplete, and are in disagreement on altitude, based on what it sounds like is two different altimeters or displays, AND you’re flying around airport traffic, cancel the training and take the damn night vision off.
Is this crazy talk?
NTSB said they heard traffic warning inside the helicopter recordings?
Good people are dead because of these yahoos playing army. Court martial their COC and ban milair ops from civilian flight paths (what a no brainer).
“Yes, if the barometric pressure is not manually entered correctly on a Blackhawk helicopter, it will directly lead to inaccurate altitude readings on the aircraft’s altimeter, potentially putting the flight at risk due to misinterpreting the actual altitude above ground level.”
I would think blackhawks have glass cockpits, meaning the panel in front them is a screen, not a bunch of dials.
That would mean altimeter would combine sources, one of which could be GPS. Also, manually setting an altimeter means you set it to the barometer number read to you as part of takeoff clearance. It would not be a matter of forgetting.
I am a pilot but zero time in blackhawks
Very strange. I can’t speak for the Blackhawk, but Chinooks, for instance, have a BPS (barometric pressure sensor) as well as a radar altimeter.
On the altimeters that I have used, you needed to know your elevation before you took off and you dialed the altimeter to match your known elevation. It is calibrated based upon barometric pressure. It tells you feet above sea level.
FFS can you. All. Stop.
PAT25 was not transmitting ADS-B but did have Mode S enabled, allowing online flight tracking websites like Flightradar24 to track the aircraft through multilateration. It should be noted that multilateration tracking is often not 100% accurate, especially at lower altitudes.
Bad initial pre-flight altitude setting on the Sikorsky?
Affected by night vision impairment?
From video’s I saw, ground speed of Sikorshy seemed very fast at moment of impact.
I am not a pilot.
AND get away from the landing path!
ping
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