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Pastor tells church 'sometimes violence is necessary,' appears to link Elon Musk's DOGE to 'the devil'
Christian Post ^ | 02/13/2025 | Ian M. Giatti

Posted on 02/13/2025 10:01:28 AM PST by SeekAndFind


Dr. Steve Caudle delivers sermon at Greater Second Missionary Baptist Church (GSMBC) in Chattanooga, Tennessee, on Feb. 9, 2025.

A Baptist church in Tennessee has taken down its website amid calls for its pastor to step down after a video clip surfaced in which he stated that "sometimes violence is necessary" when speaking about the Trump administration's efforts toward fiscal transparency.

Dr. Steve Caudle, senior reverend at Greater Second Missionary Baptist Church (GSMBC) in Chattanooga, delivered a sermon on Sunday in which he appeared to threaten the "possibility of violence" over the newly established Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) and its ongoing investigations into misappropriation of taxpayer funding.

In a message titled "The Violent Kingdom," Caudle warned about the DOGE initiative as a threat to "steal your personal information and your Social Security check" and appeared to link the effort to "the devil."

"I pray that the peace of God will win out and overcome the madness that is attempting to take over this nation. And I'll say to you, beloved, no one likes violence, but sometimes violence is necessary," said Caudle. "When Elon Musk forces his way into the United States Treasury and threatens to steal your personal information and your Social Security check, there is the possibility of violence.

"Sometimes the devil will act so ugly that you have no other choice but to get violent and fight," he added.

When Caudle anticipated the objection of some of his congregation to the threat of violence as not a very "Christian thing to do," he pointed to what he argued was a biblical mandate from Jesus Himself.

"Why not talk this way? Because Jesus did," he said, citing Matthew 11:12: "From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been subject to violence, and the violent lay claim to it."

"The kingdom of God is a war zone," Caudle continued. "It is a battlefield. ... It is a place where the forces of Hell clash against the angelic host of Heaven in a violent spiritual warfare, and we are included in the battle. The violence of this warfare affects every part of our existence; it affects our bodies, it affects our minds, it affects our peace.

"The stress, the chaos and the pressure produced by the violence can be so intense we find ourselves on the verge of collapse, but although we feel that sometimes we are about to break, our charge is to hold fast because Jesus is our battle axe and he will fight our battles."

The clip quickly went viral on social media, where Musk himself shared a video of Caudle's sermon with the caption, "They are afraid that their fraud will be discovered." Musk suggested that Caudle's sermon indicated "he is trying to hide MASSIVE fraud."

Weston Wamp, mayor of Hamilton County, where Caudle's church is located, slammed the pastor's "hateful rhetoric" and called for his "immediate resignation" from the county's planning commission. He accused the pastor of using the pulpit to "justify violence" against the Trump administration and Musk.

As of Tuesday morning, the GSMBC website was offline and displayed an "under construction" message.

Neither Caudle nor the church has responded to a request for comment Monday from CP.

Caudle later told ABC affiliate WTVC Chattanooga he does not plan to apologize for his sermon and denied calling for violence against Musk.

"I never called for violence against Elon Musk, and he knows that it's propaganda," he told the outlet. "They take things, they twist it, they only play portions of a particular sermon in order to push their propaganda."

He said the sermon was strictly about the passage in the New Testament, not contemporary politics.

"I was talking about the passage out of the Gospel of Matthew. The 11th chapter, the words of Jesus, not my words. When he said, 'Since the time of John the Baptist, the kingdom of Heaven suffers violence and the violent take it by force.'"

According to a cached version of the GSMBC website, the church's vision is to "develop a multi-racial community church committed to the social, economic, and spiritual renewal of the Eastdale community through seed sowing evangelism, gospel preaching, workshop education, youth mentorship, charity outreach and justice intervention."

Under its "Our Beliefs" section, GSMBC calls the Bible "inerrant in the original transcripts" and is the "divine authoritative standard for living for every age and every people."

A cached version of the site also lists its ministry directors and deacons as well as 12 members' names as representatives of the "Twelve Tribes" from Asher to Zebulon.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arreststevecaudle; baptist; church; doge; domesticterrorist; gsmbc; incitingsedition; musk; pastor; stevecaudle; terroristicthreats; threats; usaid; violence
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1 posted on 02/13/2025 10:01:28 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Ignorance is RAMPANT in some places!!


2 posted on 02/13/2025 10:02:26 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Democratic leaderaship and media incitement to violence.


3 posted on 02/13/2025 10:03:22 AM PST by Wuli
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To: SeekAndFind

I wonder how much Democrats paid him


4 posted on 02/13/2025 10:04:52 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free, the USA will never have equal justice under the law)
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To: SeekAndFind
I heard excerpts of that screed sermon. That particular "church" should lose its tax-Exempt status forthwith.
5 posted on 02/13/2025 10:05:00 AM PST by left that other site (Ask Not What The Left is Doing. Ask What They Are Accusing YOU of Doing.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Revrun doesn’t grasp that he just invited someone walked up and shot him in the head.


6 posted on 02/13/2025 10:11:58 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: SeekAndFind
"Why not talk this way? Because Jesus did," he said, citing Matthew 11:12: "

I know I shouldn't think this is funny but I do. Jesus advocated for violence against those shutting down government wasteful spending? That's in Matthew 11:12????

7 posted on 02/13/2025 10:12:08 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: SeekAndFind

When I read the headline I thought, “that’s an odd thing for a Baptist preacher in Tennessee to say”, then I saw the photo.


8 posted on 02/13/2025 10:12:11 AM PST by 762X51
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To: SeekAndFind

People said that about MLK. These black churches are DNC satellites.


9 posted on 02/13/2025 10:12:36 AM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: SeekAndFind

Careful, “pastor”. You’d better finish all of that math problem. Violence is never one-sided.


10 posted on 02/13/2025 10:13:32 AM PST by Frank Drebin (And don't ever let me catch you guys in America!)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is long past the time that churches, synagogues, and mosques pay income tax and property tax.


11 posted on 02/13/2025 10:17:48 AM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Trump & Vance, 2024! (Formerly) Goldwater & Thomas Sowell)
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To: SeekAndFind

He needs a visit by the new Secret Service.


12 posted on 02/13/2025 10:20:39 AM PST by P-Marlowe (Do the math. L+G+B+T+Q = 666)
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To: SeekAndFind

I suspect th minister is gonna find himself without a congregation in the near future ! 😜


13 posted on 02/13/2025 10:22:08 AM PST by Nebr FAL owner (Treason is the reason for Democrat Sedition & subvertion )
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To: thegagline

The power to tax is the power to destroy.


14 posted on 02/13/2025 10:22:43 AM PST by P-Marlowe (Do the math. L+G+B+T+Q = 666)
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To: SeekAndFind

Talking crap is the only way people like him ever get any attention


15 posted on 02/13/2025 10:27:18 AM PST by bigbob (Yes. We ARE going back!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Musk's response:

This tells me that he is trying to hide MASSIVE fraud

16 posted on 02/13/2025 10:27:54 AM PST by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Sometimes violence is necessary,” but don’t expect me to be involved in throwing and, most of all, receiving punches.

What happened to the lib shibboleth “Violence begets violence”?


17 posted on 02/13/2025 10:28:02 AM PST by DPMD
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To: SeekAndFind

Could you imagine the fallout if Musk said, “Sometimes the devil will act so ugly that you have no other choice but to get violent and fight,” about the fake doctor Steve Caudle ?

There wouldn’t be a safe liquor store, home electronics store, or athletic shoe store in any city in the nation. However, libraries and bookstores would remain untouched.


18 posted on 02/13/2025 10:28:41 AM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Trump & Vance, 2024! (Formerly) Goldwater & Thomas Sowell)
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To: SeekAndFind

Tax That Church!


19 posted on 02/13/2025 10:30:01 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: P-Marlowe
The power to tax is the power to destroy.

I’m sure you are taxed and are not destroyed. I’ve been taxed for over a half a century and I am not destroyed. Churches and other religious institutions should taxed.

20 posted on 02/13/2025 10:32:21 AM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Trump & Vance, 2024! (Formerly) Goldwater & Thomas Sowell)
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