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Incompetent or crooked? Elon Musk exposing Washington’s rotten system
New York Post ^ | Feb. 10, 2025 | Glenn H. Reynolds

Posted on 02/10/2025 5:18:10 PM PST by george76

Democrats have their panties in a wad over the work that Elon Musk and DOGE are doing to control government spending.

But despite all the hoopla, what’s actually going on is straightforward stuff that most people probably — but wrongly — assumed the government was doing all along.

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Musk wrote on X Saturday that DOGE and the Treasury Department have agreed to take the following steps:

All outgoing payments must have a categorization code in order to be paid. That’s supposed to already happen, but Musk has found the code is often left blank, making audits nearly impossible.

All payments must have an explanation attached — another procedure that has been routinely ignored, making it hard to determine what or who federal payments are actually for.

Every payment must be checked against an up-to-date “Do Not Pay” list of known frauds, terrorist groups, deceased people and expenditures that do not match congressional appropriations.

“The above super obvious and necessary changes are being implemented by existing, long-time career government employees,” Musk noted. “It is ridiculous [these rules] didn’t exist already!”

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Musk went on to express disbelief that more than $100 billion worth of entitlements every year are going to “individuals with no SSN or even a temporary ID number. If accurate, this is extremely suspicious.”

“When I asked if anyone at Treasury had a rough guess for what percentage of that number is unequivocal and obvious fraud, the consensus in the room was about half, so $50B/year or $1B/week

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the Social Security Administration has no mechanism to prevent duplicate Social Security numbers from being issued — “which further enables MASSIVE FRAUD

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problem isn’t incompetence. Maybe the system is in fact set up to facilitate fraud.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: crooked; doge; elon; fraud; incompetence; incompetent; massivefraud; musk; socialsecurity
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1 posted on 02/10/2025 5:18:10 PM PST by george76
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To: george76

Both! No need to create a dichotomy here


2 posted on 02/10/2025 5:20:22 PM PST by xp38
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To: george76

“Incompetent or crooked?”

Hey NYP, you forgot “AND” in the title.


3 posted on 02/10/2025 5:23:56 PM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: george76

BOTH!! Definitely BOTH!


4 posted on 02/10/2025 5:24:07 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: george76

“Incompetent or crooked?” Not binary choice.

It is not necessary to ascribe malice to mere stupidity, but they work very well in tandem, if mischief is the result, whether intended or not.


5 posted on 02/10/2025 5:24:16 PM PST by alloysteel ( Beware the old soldier. There's a reason he's old.)
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To: george76

BOTH. The incompetent made it EASY for the crooked to steal.


6 posted on 02/10/2025 5:25:58 PM PST by OHPatriot (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: xp38

I don’t know. It seems they’re pretty competent at fraud.


7 posted on 02/10/2025 5:27:01 PM PST by MNDude
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+1


8 posted on 02/10/2025 5:30:45 PM PST by Ken Regis (I concur )
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To: george76

As a former bank auditor, it’s almost incomprehensible to me that there has been a total lack of internal controls over the payment system of the US Government; however, after what has gone on especially in the last 4 years, I find myself unsurprised.


9 posted on 02/10/2025 5:32:06 PM PST by Qiviut (Come! Live in the light! Shine with the joy and the love of the Lord!)
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To: george76

Mostly crooked peppered with incompetence.


10 posted on 02/10/2025 5:34:38 PM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: george76

The New York Post seems to be coming around as of late.


11 posted on 02/10/2025 5:36:13 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Parley Baer

Yes


12 posted on 02/10/2025 5:37:22 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Qiviut

There are no controls because the people who ran it did not want any impediments to their fraud and embezzlement.


13 posted on 02/10/2025 5:52:21 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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14 posted on 02/10/2025 5:54:56 PM PST by linMcHlp
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To: Qiviut

And it appears not to matter which party is running the admin. I don’t consider Trump or Musk to be party guys. Absolute power would give BOTH absolute corruption and the lack of care which would be incompetence.


15 posted on 02/10/2025 6:00:35 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: george76

Both and then some. Criminal. Treasonous.


16 posted on 02/10/2025 6:12:54 PM PST by know.your.why (<>)
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To: george76; All

From a simple systems perspective and design, the category code should have been a mandatory entry field and validated against an acceptable values table. This would prevent blanks but not prevent mis-assigning a value however.


17 posted on 02/10/2025 6:21:50 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: MNDude

Indeed but government in general excels at incompetence too.


18 posted on 02/10/2025 6:30:18 PM PST by xp38
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To: george76
Back some 14 years ago a bit of software was offered to HHS for Medicare and Medicaid payments. It would check for duplicate and fraudulent SS numbers being used.

It was estimated that it would prevent some 90 billion in waste annually.

They turned it down.

19 posted on 02/10/2025 6:45:04 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: george76

I wonder if we are being taxed without representation


20 posted on 02/10/2025 7:26:34 PM PST by algore
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