Posted on 02/02/2025 8:03:40 AM PST by JonathonMoseley
But RFK and the entire vaccine-quality movement has muddled the message. Over and over RFK told the Senators "I support vaccines. [But] I want good science." That doesn't register. That doesn't make sense, especially to those who intentionally don't want to understand it.
Good medicine is good. Bad medicine is bad. We have an entire government agency, the Food and Drug Administration, founded on the scandals of the nation's first century or so of contaminated food and worthless medication.
No one is dividing or "framing" this topic correctly. As often happens, the vaccine quality movement has recoiled from political attacks and social scolding and has retreated too far into the tortoise shell.
RFK needs to clearly tell the Senators flacking for Big Pharma (either if there are any further hearings or outside the hearings in public): "Senator, if you believe vaccines are important, why don't you think quality manufacturing of vaccines is very important? Why do you want vaccines regardless of whether a particular vaccine is proven not to work? I want decisions based on hard science, not on lobbyists' checks."
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Thune is a few weeks into his role as Senate Majority Leader. If he can’t get every last one of Trump’s nominees confirmed - after Trump delivered him the Senate majority - Thune should step down. This is Thune’s only job right now - get Trump’s nominees confirmed.
We also need major DONORS whether Dem or Repub who have personally been burnt by the healthcare system (which hurts rich people too believe it or not) to boldly address the Senators and use campaign funding as leverage.
A few quiet Democrats with some common sense voting rightly would be good too.
Heavenly Father: please intervene and work good will in these Senators’ hearts and minds.
Well said, Sir !
RFK isn’t smooth, his delivery is like talking in a truck driving down a rough dirt road.
RFK is headlining the MAHA enterprise.
Without him, the wheels will fall off, and MAHA will grind to an ungainly and obscene halt.
‘They’ really seem to be wheeling out the big guns against him.
Trump must be pretty steamed about this.
RFK not some slick politician … nor polished rhetorician like his uncle and dad — but he does carry the dignity of his name quite well I’d say!
Anyway, his heart is in the right place, and like Trump, RFK faces a particular brand of seething, loathing, screeching hyena-like persecution. It’s a miracle he didn’t just get up and leave. The treatment was so disgusting.
It’s a medical condition.
RFK is* not some slick politician (typo)
That's an entire school of red herrings.
Nobody supports vaccines that don't work, or that aren't manufactured with quality processes. It's just ridiculous to frame the question that way, and it's the type of tactic leftists usually use when framing an argument. It a "why do you want to push old people off cliffs in wheelchairs" level of debate.
The issue is what level of quality and what level of proof do you require before accepting that a vaccine is beneficial? Without those kind of metrics framing the debate, the debate is pointless. It is going to be a very rare vaccine that is 100% effective in all cases, and never has any adverse side effects for anyone.
“This is Thune’s only job right now - get Trump’s nominees confirmed.”
That is what he was told to do by Trump. I wonder what he was told to do by McConnell.
“Thune is a few weeks into his role as Senate Majority Leader. “
McConnell is Senate Rules Committee Chairman. He also still has his relationships with big donors. No doubt he is still pulling strings.
“RFK isn’t smooth, his delivery is like talking in a truck driving down a rough dirt road.”
So what?
Pharm owns the drm senate. It doesn’t want RFK in nor trump for that matter. That is all that’s going on here
RFK’s past statements and positions reveal a pattern of views that align, at times, with socialist-leaning ideologies, particularly in his critiques of U.S. foreign policy and his advocacy for economic justice. His opposition to American interventions against leftist governments in Latin America, coupled with his emphasis on state-driven environmental policies and wealth redistribution efforts, places him in a sphere of thought that has drawn comparisons to socialist leaders like Fidel Castro and Hugo Chávez. While he may not explicitly endorse their regimes, his rhetoric often challenges traditional capitalist structures and U.S. geopolitical strategies, echoing themes frequently championed by socialist movements.
While I like his views against the Covid vaccine hysteria, some pro Castro comments he has made is a red line for me.
It is ludicrous for government agencies like the FDA or CDC or NIH to be empowered to impose guidelines — or even mandates — to push vaccines on the American people, while at the same time the pharmaceutical companies that produce these vaccines are given total immunity to lawsuits when these vaccines turn out to be defective, ineffective, or downright lethal.
I’m not sure that RFK jr is losing.
Fine - there may well be parts of that system that need reform. I was just commenting on the particular argument raised by this particular author, which is junk.
I hereby proclaim you the winner of this thread!
All Trumps folks will be confirmed.
Period.
There should be plenty of covid vaccine skeptics out there with a much better and more reliable background than RFK Jr.. Maybe this is Trump making a political payoff for RFK's support during the campaign. And if Trump made that deal, that's good for him, but that doesn't mean anyone else has to accept that it bbe paid off.
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