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Russian Casualties and the Russian Economy — A Memo for President Donald Trump
Sonar 21 ^ | 23 Jan 25 | Larry Johnson

Posted on 01/25/2025 8:01:56 AM PST by delta7

Mr. President, I believe that the CIA is providing you inaccurate, false intelligence about Russia’s casualties and the condition of its economy. If you hope to realize your goal of opening negotiations with President Vladimir Putin to bring an end to the war in Ukraine, you must be equipped with the best information available.

You have been briefed that Russia has suffered devastating losses — as many as 800,000 casualties — and that Russia’s economy is weak and fragile. Data from open sources paint a diametrically opposite picture.

One of the best open sources for information about Russian casualties is Mediazona:

Mediazona (Russian: Медиазона) is a Russian independent media outlet focused on Anti-Putinist opposition that was founded by Maria Alyokhina and Nadezhda Tolokonnikova, who are also co-founders of the protest group and band Pussy Riot. The outlet’s editor-in-chief is Russian political journalist Sergey Smirnov. Mediazona is an independent organization that is ideologically opposed to Vladimir Putin. It is the antithesis of a Russian propaganda outlet. Mediazona employs a multi-faceted methodology to track Russian casualties in the Ukraine war, which includes:

Open-source intelligence gathering: They monitor publicly available information from news agencies, social media platforms, official military reports, and local residents’ groups. Collaboration: Mediazona works closely with the BBC Russian Service to track and verify casualty reports. Comprehensive database: They maintain a regularly updated casualty list, which currently contains over 44,600 names of Russian soldiers killed in action. Probate Registry analysis: Mediazona combines their casualty list with data from the Probate Registry database to estimate the true mortality rate among Russian men. Statistical modeling: They use a method that accounts for all excess male mortality up to age 50, considering factors such as social composition, delays in notary consultations, and death registration delays. Cross-referencing: The team verifies information by cross-checking multiple sources and databases. Volunteer network: A team of volunteers assists in data collection and verification. Continuous updating: The database is regularly updated to reflect the most current information available. According to Mediazona’s latest data, there are 88,726 confirmed Russian combat deaths since February 2022. Mediazona estimates, using probate registry data, that the number may be as high as 120,000. This is a far cry from the numbers claimed by Ukrainian intelligence, which forms the basis of CIA estimates.

It is essential that you understand that Russia views this war as vital to its continued existence. Russia is not fighting to reconstitute the Soviet Empire. It sees Ukraine as a Western-proxy being used to attack Russia with US-and NATO-supplied weapons and intelligence, with the ultimate goal of destroying the current government. Accordingly, the only satisfactory outcome for Russia is to end this threat. President Putin is willing to accept a negotiated settlement provided that Ukraine is stripped of its capacity to launch future attacks on Russia and that NATO ends any consideration of making Ukraine a member of NATO.

According to the latest IMF projections, Russia’s economy is expected to grow by 1.4% in 2025, a slight increase from their previous forecast of 1.3%. This represents a slowdown from the estimated 3.8% growth in 2024. The IMF attributes this slowdown to several factors:

Transition from a “war economy”: Russia’s economy has been running hot, fueled by substantial public spending on the war effort. High inflation: The IMF reports inflation in Russia at 8.3% in 2024, with sequential inflation even higher at above 9%. Monetary tightening: In response to high inflation, the Central Bank of Russia has raised interest rates to 21%, which is expected to weigh down economic activity. The IMF’s forecast for Russia in 2025 is lower than the Russian Economic Development Ministry’s baseline forecast of 2.5% growth. However, it falls within the Central Bank of Russia’s current forecast range of 0.5-1.5%.

It’s worth noting that some Russian officials, including Economic Development Minister Maxim Reshetnikov, have criticized the IMF’s forecasts as overly pessimistic, arguing that they don’t account for measures taken by Russian authorities to support the economy.

Here is the critical point: Despite the projected slowdown, the IMF’s forecast suggests that Russia’s economy continues to show resilience in the face of Western sanctions, largely due to factors such as robust oil and commodity exports to countries like India and China, and the expansion of its military-industrial complex.

The Russian government view of its economy remains upbeat, with officials highlighting strong growth figures and resilience in the face of Western sanctions. The Russian government points to several key indicators to support this optimistic view:

GDP growth: The economy grew by 3.6% in 2023 and is expected to grow by around 4% in 2024, making Russia one of the fastest growing major economies. Low unemployment: The unemployment rate dropped to 2.6% in 2024, a historically low level. Rising global economic status: According to the World Bank, Russia has overtaken Germany and Japan to become the fourth-largest economy in the world when measured by purchasing power parity. Increased investment: Fixed capital investment grew by 9.8% in 2023 and 14.5% in the first quarter of 2024. Trade surplus: Russia enjoyed a surplus of $50.2 billion in 2023 and $40.6 billion in the first half of 2024. President Vladimir Putin uses these economic indicators to argue that Western sanctions have been ineffective and to showcase Russia’s economic model to partners in Asia and Africa. His message is resonating with the leaders of the Global South.

If you consider Russia’s perspective on the war in terms of casualties and the economy, Vladimir Putin is under no pressure to reach a negotiated settlement that does not address Russia’s strategic concerns that it will no longer face a military threat from NATO. If you fail to understand this and adjust your strategy to make a deal, your efforts to negotiate an end to war in Ukraine will not succeed.


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KEYWORDS: russianpropaganda; war
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President Trump had better learn from his last administration which was filled with Deep state, I suspect the same but not in such numbers.

Remember Rex Tillerson? Pompeo? Barr? Sessions? …they all torpedoed his agenda turned on him.

1 posted on 01/25/2025 8:01:56 AM PST by delta7
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To: delta7

Both sides have suffered massive casualties.
Screw both of them at this point. Trump is leaning on both sides for peace.


2 posted on 01/25/2025 8:05:40 AM PST by Williams (Thank God for the election of President Trump!)
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To: delta7

No, President Trump isn’t wrong

He knows how to analyze a financial statement better than you or Larry Johnson, he’s got access to better info than either of you, AND he’s never lied to us

So, more people will believe Pres. Trump is telling the truth, than you or Larry Johnson (a known Russian propagandist, btw)


3 posted on 01/25/2025 8:08:38 AM PST by canuck_conservative (Russia lies all the time)
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To: delta7

No, President Trump isn’t wrong

He knows how to analyze a financial statement better than you or Larry Johnson, he’s got access to better info than either of you, AND he’s never lied to us

So, more people will believe Pres. Trump is telling the truth, than you or Larry Johnson (a known Russian propagandist, btw)


4 posted on 01/25/2025 8:08:38 AM PST by canuck_conservative (Russia lies all the time)
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To: delta7

No, President Trump isn’t wrong

He knows how to analyze a financial statement better than you or Larry Johnson, he’s got access to better info than either of you, AND he’s never lied to us

So, more people will believe Pres. Trump is telling the truth, than you or Larry Johnson (a known Russian propagandist, btw)


5 posted on 01/25/2025 8:08:38 AM PST by canuck_conservative (Russia lies all the time)
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To: delta7

I think there is a great deal of lying on both sides. I look long and hard for information that is not from a government source or manipulated by a government source. As I can see. The people of Russia have lots of food in stores. And some things are very expensive but other stuff that is produced in Russia is very reasonable. Russians are used to hardship. Far more than I would like to endure. Their ruble is worth about a penny now. But they can trade with gold and oil. They have a lot of both.

Russia is clearly using mercenaries. So many of their dead are not actually Russian. They have a problem that manpower in Russia is very low.


6 posted on 01/25/2025 8:10:46 AM PST by poinq (thics and customs and did not take an oath to the country. And did not follow the country's traditio)
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To: delta7

The key to peace between Russia and Ukraine is Germany buying its energy from the US rather than Russia, and the price of oil decreasing, making Russian aggression more costly.


7 posted on 01/25/2025 8:11:11 AM PST by yldstrk
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To: delta7
Russia is not fighting to reconstitute the Soviet Empire.

I'm not convinced of that. I see what Putin is doing as a form of low-budget opportunism in that direction.

8 posted on 01/25/2025 8:14:36 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: canuck_conservative

Three times you provide the same message? So, yah gonna go ALL CAPS next?


9 posted on 01/25/2025 8:16:05 AM PST by bobbo666
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To: canuck_conservative

he’s got access to better info than either of you>>> Info coming from the people that accused him of being a russian spy?


10 posted on 01/25/2025 8:17:53 AM PST by kvanbrunt2
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To: delta7
Russia’s economy continues to show resilience in the face of Western sanctions, largely due to factors such as robust oil and commodity exports

That is over with "drill baby drill."

11 posted on 01/25/2025 8:18:28 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: delta7

“It is essential that you understand that Russia views this war as vital to its continued existence. Russia is not fighting to reconstitute the Soviet Empire. It sees Ukraine as a Western-proxy being used to attack Russia with US-and NATO-supplied weapons and intelligence, with the ultimate goal of destroying the current government. Accordingly, the only satisfactory outcome for Russia is to end this threat. President Putin is willing to accept a negotiated settlement provided that Ukraine is stripped of its capacity to launch future attacks on Russia and that NATO ends any consideration of making Ukraine a member of NATO.”

This is what Putin said BEFORE the invasion, amongst other reasons (the attempted genocide by Ukraine in Donbass, etc.).

He said what he was going to accomplish, and WHY he was going to do it. He didn’t lie. Putin means what he says. Fancy that.

Cold Warriors never die, they just go into the MIC, NATO, MSM, and State Department. Oh, and the pockets of Congress. There’s billions for the taking. Including the msm, many hundreds of billions. All borrowed from our posterity.

NATO needs to end. The US should get out of it (and the UN). It’s a solution looking for a problem, so creates them.

What a waste.


12 posted on 01/25/2025 8:20:14 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (MAGA!!!!)
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To: delta7

Lol, as if Trump and his team aren’t aware of information some obscure blogger has...


13 posted on 01/25/2025 8:23:23 AM PST by bigbob (Yes. We ARE going back!)
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To: bobbo666

More likely a goofy mouse or computer since all 3 posted at the same second.


14 posted on 01/25/2025 8:23:50 AM PST by bgill
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To: delta7

Russia after all defeated Germany AND Japan with no help from the U.S. Defeated Poland in 1921. Defeated Poland a second time in 1939 with no held from Germany. Defeated Afghanistan when nobody else could. Overran Ukraine in 3 days.


15 posted on 01/25/2025 8:25:57 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: delta7
According to Mediazona’s latest data, there are 88,726 confirmed Russian combat deaths since February 2022. Mediazona estimates, using probate registry data, that the number may be as high as 120,000.

120,000 dead, correlated with perhaps 400,000 wounded, plus approx. 50,000 M.I.A. / deserted.

That's about a total of 600,000 casualties, and comports well with most of the estimates being bandied about nowadays.

There is thus no call for "outrage" or "skepticism."

Russia is being bled white.

It is essential that you understand that Russia views this war as vital to its continued existence.

What and where was the "existential threat to Russia's existence" on Feb. 24, 2022? In what way did Ukraine pose a danger to the continued existence of the Russian state prior to the Russian invasion of peaceful Ukraine?

Any danger the current Russian regime faces is due exclusively to its own reckless and criminal behavior.

Russia is not fighting to reconstitute the Soviet Empire.

Yes, it is. Otherwise, Putin wouldn't be annexing foreign territories in Europe the likes of which we haven't seen since Hitler's war for more Lebensraum.

It sees Ukraine as a Western-proxy being used to attack Russia with US-and NATO-supplied weapons and intelligence [...]

Only after the Russian invasion of peaceful Ukraine on Feb. 24, 2022!

This has been absolutely necessary to protect the continued existence of a free Ukrainian nation.

[...] with the ultimate goal of destroying the current government.

In view of its many, many war crimes (incl. Crimes against Humanity and Waging a War of Aggression), the current government of Russia deserves to be consigned to the junk-heap of history.

Regards,

16 posted on 01/25/2025 8:32:45 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Williams
Both sides have suffered massive casualties. Screw both of them at this point.

But Russia / Putin - which launched the surprise invasion - bears the sole blame for the bloodshed.

Regards,

17 posted on 01/25/2025 8:34:21 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: delta7

Heck yeah, they are lying to Trump about this and everything they think they can get by with. He can’t trust anything they say. They’re out to take him and America down.

I can’t see Putin playing over Ukraine losing such numbers. Russia has never understood a prosperous economy and never will until they drop communism.


18 posted on 01/25/2025 8:34:51 AM PST by bgill
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And the Russian media propagandists are embracing expansionism, stating the Balkan states are “ours”.


19 posted on 01/25/2025 8:37:30 AM PST by sauropod ("You didn't take a country. You only won a football game!" - Dan Dakich Ne supra crepidam)
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NATO needs to end.

More than any other single entity or factor, NATO deserves the credit for the collapse and dissolution of the Soviet Union - aptly described by President Ronald Reagan as an "Evil Empire."

The Soviet Union had more nuclear weapons pointed at America's heartland than any other state or combination of states on the planet.

Today's Russia still has more nuclear weapons threatening America's heartland.

How could any patriotic American call for the termination of NATO?

If America had not supported beleaguered Ukraine with military assistance, Putin's stormtroopers would have eventually pushed to the borders of Poland, Hungary, etc.

He probably would have already begun the re-conquest of the Baltic states.

NATO always was and continues to be a bulwark against Russian expansionism.

Regards,

20 posted on 01/25/2025 8:42:04 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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