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Transatlantic trepidation: Europe reacts to the new Reagan presidency – archive, 1981
theguardian ^ | 01/22/2025 | Compiled by Richard Nelsson

Posted on 01/24/2025 7:51:32 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

Transatlantic trepidation By John Palmer in Brussels 22 January 1981

No inauguration of any modern American president has been viewed in Europe with such ambiguity as that of Mr Ronald Reagan. Behind the official words of welcome and the delegations of support for the administration the United States’ European allies harbour serious misgivings about the future of US/European relations.

The attitudes of western Europe to a “strong” US have always been contradictory – but rarely more so than today. On the one hand, most governments are anxious to see Washington pursue a more consistent and self confident international foreign policy. On the other, the Europeans are not willing to revert to the relationship of subservient client states which obtained in the immediate postwar period when the US clearly ruled the waves.

The Europeans criticised the Carter administration for vacillation and inconsistency but remained reluctant to conclude that not just the power of the US presidency but that of the United States itself was in decline. To do so would have been to ask themselves questions about the longer-term direction of European foreign and defence policy to which no one had – or for that matter still has – any credible answers. The almost universal assumption in European capitals is that after a brief “honeymoon” period, serious frictions will develop between the US and the European members of Nato over defence policy and with the Common Market over foreign and possibly, commercial, policy. Some Nato strategists even fear that arguments over arms spending targets and also the deployment of cruise nuclear missiles could weaken the alliance during a period of potentially serious confrontation with the Soviet Union.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: europe; reagan; transatlantic; trepidation
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I am sure Europe in 1981 disliked Reagan has much as they do Trump in 2025.
1 posted on 01/24/2025 7:51:32 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Ironically, today Reagan is more popular in Russia than any other US President, because they respected him as a leader.


2 posted on 01/24/2025 7:52:20 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I remember it well. Lots of anger and marches in Europe. Reagan was a war-monger. Nukes would fly. We would all die.

But he ended the Cold War, broke up the USSR, freed Eastern Europe, and united Germany.

Trump’s accomplishments may end up being greater.


3 posted on 01/24/2025 7:55:25 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy

Amen


4 posted on 01/24/2025 7:55:50 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ClearCase_guy

5 posted on 01/24/2025 8:01:05 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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So many great songs predicting Reagan would blow us all up. The Fixx made a career of it.


6 posted on 01/24/2025 8:02:50 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

peace through strenth.


7 posted on 01/24/2025 8:11:48 AM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING 0F AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: dfwgator

Some that come to mind in addition to Nena-99 Luftballoons:

Men At Work - It’s A Mistake
Genesis - Land of Confusion
Timbuk 3 - Future’s So Bright, I Gotta Wear Shades
Sting - Russians
Fixx - Red Skies at Night
Frankie Goes To Hollywood - Two Tribes
Europe - The Final Countdown


8 posted on 01/24/2025 8:38:48 AM PST by pburiak (You really think we can vote our way out of this? That’s so cute...)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I have a toaster made in “West Germany” it is a nice souvenir of the pre-Reagan World.


9 posted on 01/24/2025 8:53:34 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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How cool


10 posted on 01/24/2025 8:54:18 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: dfwgator

Phil Collins also


11 posted on 01/24/2025 8:54:36 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: pburiak

Genesis, over the years had several songs about Nuclear war, going all the way back to 1970s “Stagnation” on the Tresspass album.

Then there’s “Afterglow” from 1977.


12 posted on 01/24/2025 8:57:16 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Trump is Reagan on steroids X 10.

I'm a big Reagan fan ( even tho he did do a lot of stupid stuff and I blame that on CIA advisors), but the Gipper just got replaced as best us president ever

13 posted on 01/24/2025 9:55:12 AM PST by KTM rider (my thinking has made a tmajor paradigm shift since 2020, I no longer know what to believe )
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1986 amnesty. He got rolled


14 posted on 01/24/2025 9:58:35 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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Don Henley’s The End of the Innocence

From Wikipedia:

Henley ensured there would be two political comments in the video:

At the line “they’re beating plowshares into swords, for this tired old man that we elected king,” a series of campaign posters of U.S. President Ronald Reagan is shown.At the line “lawyers clean up all details,” a television set playing the congressional testimony of Oliver North appears on-screen.


15 posted on 01/24/2025 10:16:31 AM PST by shotgun
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To: dfwgator

On a lighter note, forgot about “Christmas At Ground Zero” by Weird Al Yankovic lol.


16 posted on 01/24/2025 10:18:12 AM PST by pburiak (You really think we can vote our way out of this? That’s so cute...)
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To: shotgun

Yep. Henley is a leftist hack, but on the other hand, “Dirty Laundry” could have been written yesterday and every word is just as relevant as it was in 1982.


17 posted on 01/24/2025 10:24:04 AM PST by pburiak (You really think we can vote our way out of this? That’s so cute...)
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To: pburiak

Yep


18 posted on 01/24/2025 11:03:13 AM PST by shotgun
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To: shotgun

Slightly Pre-Reagan, there was “Life During Wartime” (Talking Heads)

Also Pre-Reagan by a decade or so, but Neil Youngs “After the Goldrush”


19 posted on 01/24/2025 11:05:45 AM PST by John Milner (Marching for Peace is like breathing for food.)
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To: pburiak

https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=genesis+illegal+alien+song&mid=6697AE24965BB770E3376697AE24965BB770E337&mcid=A41597C8FEFC45E887402291DF28D49B&FORM=VIRE

Genesis Illegal Aline Song is also relevant today


20 posted on 01/24/2025 11:07:12 AM PST by shotgun
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