Posted on 12/13/2024 12:16:28 PM PST by where's_the_Outrage?
The Democratic response to the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson raises questions about the scope and significance of the federal healthcare reform legislation they passed without any Republican votes under former President Barack Obama.
President Joe Biden, then the vice president, famously called the enactment of the Affordable Care Act a “big f***ing deal” at the 2010 signing ceremony. But when he sought the Democratic presidential nomination himself 10 years later, he was the only top-tier candidate running on Obamacare rather than other more government-centric healthcare plans.
Biden won the nomination, defeating several proponents of Medicare for All, including Vice President Kamala Harris. But most Democrats were speaking as if Obamacare had never passed roughly a decade later, even as they defended the law from Republican repeal attempts. “The reality is right now, we don’t have a healthcare system,” Tulsi Gabbard, then a Democratic congresswoman and presidential candidate, said in 2019. “Nobody can defend the dysfunctionality of the current system," Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) concurred at the time.....
But Obamacare has been the law of the land for nearly 15 years and progressives still view the healthcare system as highly unjust. Many, perhaps most, elected Democrats now prefer expanding Medicare to Obamacare’s approach of mandating, subsidizing, and regulating private health insurance as a way to expand coverage. Earlier versions of the legislation also included a government-run public option that was stripped out in the Senate. Medicaid expansion was another key component of Obamacare.
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Get the government out of it.
Let the free market fix it.
I’ve been reminding libs of that all over the net.
It’s a Big F Deal, to quote Joe Biden.
They screwed it up. It’s on them.
I have noticed a sharp decline of medical services since Obamacare was fully implemented.
there is a very ling line to appointment, surgeries waiting list is very long, in hospital ER you may be waiting a whole day!
All because there are more and more Medicaid patients who do not have to pay.
This is the issue and republicans should be focusing on this.
Competition is needed.
Who’d a thunk that forcing everyone to have health insurance would lead to insurance companies making obscene profits!? (With a little congressional kickback of course).
We just renewed our crap insurance. My wife and I - $1,067 a month. Up $200/month from last year. The kicker is - the state is covering $1,400+ a month because we aren’t “wealthy”. I figure the only way this works is if the insurance companies give a huge kick-back to the state.
I’m seriously thinking about looking into the fine for not having insurance and just pay that. Of course as soon as I self-insure, something terrible will happen for the first time in my life. (Well - medically.)
You’re probably right.
As painful as it is, it isn’t worth skipping medical insurance. All it takes is 1 event and you’re financially devastated. You better keep it.
My sweet dtr pays $1100 a month to cover her husband and baby and she works fulltime....everything is so expensive for our workers because they’re paying the bills for the illegal the druggies the drunk and the lazy.
“I figure the only way this works is if the insurance companies give a huge kick-back to the state.”
Look at the money health insurance companies spend on campaign contributions and lobbying. That’s how the politicians are rewarded and why they whine about the system to constituents but never take effective action.
No “obscene profits” for UHC...having a bad year...net profit down to about 3.6% from about 6% last year..only about 2% better than the very slim margins of retail grocers:
https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/UNH/unitedhealth-group/net-profit-margin
You want obscene profits look to railroads, banks or oil & gas: https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/datafile/margin.html
There is no federal penalty for not having health insurance. There are a handful of states that have a penalty such as California. The federal penalty went away in 2018 as part of the Trump 2017 tax cuts. Those tax cuts are expiring at the end of next year, but I suspect similar legislation will be passed since Trump is back in office with a slim majority in both houses. There are other potential options for coverage such as religious sharing such as Medi-share and catastrophic coverage. Some states have banned the latter.
Agree so many believe socialized medicine works but they can’t find one place where it works.
The free gravy train line is never short.
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