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Donald Trump floats workaround if Senate won’t confirm AG pick Matt Gaetz (ACTING appointments with NO confirmation necessary)
Florida Politics ^ | Florida Politics

Posted on 11/18/2024 3:30:47 PM PST by hardspunned

There’s more than one way to install an Attorney General.

President Donald Trump is suggesting on social media that if the Senate won’t confirm Matt Gaetz as the next Attorney General, Trump will go an alternate route.

Trump could use the Federal Vacancies Reform Act of 1998 instead of the recess appointment process, which has also been floated to get the Panhandle Republican through a Senate where many Republicans are skeptical of the Gaetz pick.

That 1998 law allows for temporary appointments.

“If no one has been nominated to the position, an acting officer may serve in the position for no longer than 210 days beginning on the date of the vacancy. However, for any vacant positions that exist during the 60-day period beginning on a transitional Presidential inauguration day, an acting officer may serve in the position for no longer than 300 days beginning on the inauguration day or the date of the vacancy,” an FAQ reads.

(Excerpt) Read more at floridapolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: fastenyourseatbelts; fvra; gaetz
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To: BigFreakinToad

Normally l agree but l think this is a shot across the bow. This is not Trump 2016


21 posted on 11/18/2024 4:24:03 PM PST by iamgalt
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To: Owen

The best outcome is Senate confirmed. Otherwise, the entrenched bureaucrats may try to wait out the temp pick.


22 posted on 11/18/2024 4:26:32 PM PST by Tipllub
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To: Owen
If a nominee does not withdraw, 95-99% of all nominees are confirmed by the Senate, per ChatGPT

You keep posting that same info without giving the time frames involved in the confirmation process.

Senate Confirmation Process Slows to a Crawl

Despite changes in technology and Senate rules, the official confirmation process takes more than twice as long now as it did during President Ronald Reagan’s administration. During President Donald Trump’s first three years in office, the Senate took an average of 115 days to confirm nominees compared with 56.4 days during Reagan’s two terms.1 In 2019 alone, the Senate took an average of nearly 136 days to confirm appointees.2 During three of President Barrack Obama’s eight years in office, the average confirmation process exceeded 140 days.

This lengthy period only includes the time between a president’s official nomination of appointees to the Senate and when the Senate votes on confirmation. In practice, the process begins much earlier with the identification and selection of the appointee, internal vetting and the time it takes for a potential nominee to complete forms, an FBI background check and a review by the Office of Government Ethics. This process alone can easily take months—far too long.

I found this noteworthy... This study only covers the period between a formal nomination and Senate confirmation—meaning the entire nomination process can take six months to a year for many nominees. This study does not cover the vetting, background checks and security clearances that take place before a formal nomination is sent to the Senate. According to one study from 2010, the selection and vetting process takes about 70% of the overall time for presidential nominees while the Senate’s role takes about 30%. I DO understand why you're posting what you're posting and WHY you're not posting actually relevant information regarding confirmations.

Timing IS everything. I look forward to posting this same information when I see your replies in the future.

23 posted on 11/18/2024 4:32:32 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: hardspunned

EZ PEAZY: Put Patel at FBI and Gaetz at DOJ. After 300 days, switch ‘em! They can team up, with a LOT of overlap between the two positions.


24 posted on 11/18/2024 4:38:08 PM PST by montag813
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To: enumerated
Why is it dumb? Democrats will do anything to win. Matt Gaetz worked for up to three years as a lawyer, before he jumped to working on the public dole. Do you know ANYTHING about his experience with relevant skills for the job of AG? Do you know whether he has any trial experience?

The job of AG is so critical, but you don't ask anything about his relevant experience and skills? This is not a job you can fake, and if the person isn't qualified, Democrats will run circles around the person. Gaetz has law school and a couple years low level experience. This is handing the Democrats a huge victory.

25 posted on 11/18/2024 4:38:50 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Openurmind
If a nominee does not withdraw, 95-99% of all nominees are confirmed by the Senate, per ChatGPT.”

It's exceedingly rare. John Tower was the last, way back in 1989.

26 posted on 11/18/2024 4:40:37 PM PST by montag813
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To: Owen
This little nugget didn't escape my notice either... Any senator can place a “hold” on a nominee to attempt to extract concessions on matters unrelated to the nominee’s qualifications. Some senators see political gain in objecting to virtually every nominee. Did ChatGPT mention that?
27 posted on 11/18/2024 4:40:55 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: montag813

Sounds like a plan. Add Hegseth. PDJT can pick the three and just rotate them every 299 days. Keep the MSM and RATs guessing - like a shell game.


28 posted on 11/18/2024 4:41:18 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (🎶 They're eating the dogs. They're eating the cats. 🎶)
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To: 11th_VA
I’ll bet each will be filibustered

I don't think nominations for either cabinet nor judges can be filibustered. Just legislation. Harry Reid rule.

29 posted on 11/18/2024 4:43:13 PM PST by montag813
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To: nickcarraway
This is not a job you can fake, and if the person isn't qualified, Democrats will run circles around the person. Gaetz has law school and a couple years low level experience. This is handing the Democrats a huge victory.

I think you are forgetting that Gaetz as AG will be a purely political position, with Trump's legal brain trust turning the gears behind the scenes. RFK was such an AG - he did not serve a single day as a practicing attorney. Went right into campaign management and political positions, and then JFK appointed him.

30 posted on 11/18/2024 4:47:11 PM PST by montag813
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To: philman_36

you can look this up yourself. chat.openai.com

Question: for senate confirmation of a cabinet nominee, what is the typical duration and what is the longest

ChatGPT:
The duration of Senate confirmation for a Cabinet nominee can vary widely depending on political dynamics, the complexity of the nominee’s background, and any controversies surrounding the nomination. Here’s a breakdown:

Typical Duration
Average time: Confirmation usually takes several weeks to a couple of months.
The process includes nomination by the President, referral to the relevant Senate committee, hearings, committee votes, and finally, a full Senate vote.
Factors Affecting Timing
Controversy or Opposition: If the nominee is contentious, the process can be prolonged.
Senate Control: If the President’s party controls the Senate, confirmations are often quicker.
Committee Review: Extensive vetting by Senate committees can lengthen the process.
External Events: Crises or major legislative priorities can delay proceedings.
Longest Confirmation
The longest recorded confirmation process for a Cabinet nominee was for Henry Stanbery, nominated as Attorney General by President Andrew Johnson in 1868. The process lasted over a year due to political turbulence and impeachment proceedings against Johnson.
In modern times, prolonged confirmations typically last a few months. For example:

John Tower (nominated as Secretary of Defense by President George H.W. Bush in 1989) faced a two-month process before being rejected due to concerns about his personal conduct.
Betsy DeVos (nominated as Secretary of Education by President Donald Trump in 2017) had a contentious process that took nearly two months, resulting in Vice President Pence casting a tie-breaking vote for confirmation.
This variability underscores the influence of political and contextual factors on confirmation timelines.


31 posted on 11/18/2024 4:48:11 PM PST by Owen
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To: MayflowerMadam
Keep the MSM and RATs guessing - like a shell game.


Three card monte seems more fitting.

32 posted on 11/18/2024 4:48:31 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Openurmind

How is the Lincoln Project doing these days anyway?

Lol.

They will be doing a hunt for Uranus while President Trump and the team get the work done.


33 posted on 11/18/2024 4:49:31 PM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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To: cgbg

I thought it was Pete Bootyjuice that was going to explore Uranus when he’s out of his cushy DOT job?


34 posted on 11/18/2024 4:53:30 PM PST by jpp113
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To: montag813

I don’t know if you have noticed, but we are living in rare times where extreme unprecedented things are happening everyday.

We are not in normal times... Normal standards no longer apply.


35 posted on 11/18/2024 4:54:02 PM PST by Openurmind
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To: Openurmind

Very good point. I have noticed.


36 posted on 11/18/2024 4:55:07 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Owen
you can look this up yourself. chat.openai.com

I'll use my own sources, thank you very much.

Now you come about like Johnny Come Lately with the timeframes involved.

And not a single word about "holds". It's interesting what isn't mentioned with your source.
Nuances are so hard for AI.

37 posted on 11/18/2024 4:55:48 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: cgbg

They haven’t stopped their agenda yet. They are just more quiet about it. They are sneaking in the backdoor instead.


38 posted on 11/18/2024 4:55:54 PM PST by Openurmind
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To: Openurmind

We are making unprecedented things happen.

They are going to be playing defense.

Watch and learn how it is done.


39 posted on 11/18/2024 4:56:32 PM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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To: jpp113

I’m thinking Matt Gaetz should get in, especially as I have not figured out how to spell his name properly. I kept getting it mixed up with Bernie Goetz, who shot those subway muggers all those years ago.


40 posted on 11/18/2024 4:57:49 PM PST by SamAdams76
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