Neocons in Overdrive to Aid Ukraine Before January

Armstrong Economics ^ | 15 Nov 24 | Martin Armstrong

[adorno]

...if you defend the US killing millions in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya, Vietnam, Central, South America, and Africa, all in undeclared war, chances are good you're a Neocon.

It's pretty clear now. You are a pacifist and no war should ever be fought, even if for defense or for defending our friends or to prevent bigger conflicts or bigger wars. A pacifist is what the enemy wishes everywhere, and PUtin loves you and Xi loves you, and the Ayatollahs love you.

A pacifist is a bigger danger than what you call a 'neocon'. Pacifists are brain-dead people.

[Fresh Wind]

When does this blatant corruption stop?

Hopefully by January 26. But until then, how much of that money will bounce right back into the pockets of the people pushing for aid to Ukraine?

[Fresh Wind]

Correction...January 20.

[JonPreston]

Excuse me, the nation just voted on your interventionist world view and your side lost. Bigly. Now either hop on the Trump Peace Train, or shuffle on back to the comment section of CNN.

[adorno]

The $200+ Billion sent to Ukraine was added to national debt. Because we have no budget surplus for year after year. We have no ability to pay off $200 Billion debt from Ukraine war. Our children and grand children will be paying interest on that debt for ever.

$200 billion over three years is less than 70 billion per year. Still a high number but, much less than having to spend trillions of dollars per year is Russia and China have their ways, which could lead to a much bigger world war.

But, the $27 trillion national debt is not because of the war in Ukraine. We are spending most of our treasure on domestic issues, and those issues continue to increase in size and expenses. Even without Ukraine, the national debt would still be around $27 trillion. Picking out Ukraine as a big cause for the debt is myopic, and the real causes for the high national debt are not being discussed.

Being the world's policeman is something that we are stuck with, and pulling back would be a mot more dangerous and costly in the long run.

The U.S. has spent more on the border and illegals issues than in Ukraine. Ukraine is also expensive, but, it's not the main cause of the over-extended budgets.

[Bobbyvotes]

Being the world's policeman is something that we are stuck with, and pulling back would be a mot more dangerous and costly in the long run.

No, we are not. Those days are gone when United States was the only power left standing after WWII. Japan Industry was bombed out. Germany Industry was bombed out. We were the sole industrial power and US dollar was mighty. We were prosperous and could afford to play world police.

That is no longer the case. US better get their own house in fiscal order first before getting involved in foreign wars with countries who did not attack us.

I am confident president Trump will end our involvement in Ukrain war quickly. To the dismay of Neocons.

[adorno]

No, we are not.

Oh yes we are The U.S. is still the world's policeman. Other countries may be relatively well-off, but, they are still not as big and wealthy as the U.S., even with out big debt.

How many other countries have the military presence all over the world as we do? How many other have the military strength. Russia and China have big military, but we are the only one military standing in their way that keep them 'honest' and somewhat in their place. Even those countries you mentioned have the U.S. military in their midst.

Take the U.S. away from being the world's policeman, and no doubt world war three would have already happened. Take our military home, and we would have ceased to exist as a secure country. We are everywhere because we have to be in order to secure the country. The world's aggressive nations are closer than you imagine, and we are their number one enemy.

[hflynn]

Adorno the current national debt is barreling towards 36 trillion not 27 trillion.

I'm pretty sure whatever the Biden administration admits to spending publicly in Ukraine is much higher than 200 billion.

The sad thing is the war in Ukraine never would have happened if a demented Joe Biden hadn't said when asked about Putin and Ukraine, depends on what he does.” If he mounts “a minor incursion,

[adorno]

...the current national debt is barreling towards 36 trillion not 27 trillion.

Yeah, I know the true number. I've had problems with my eyes lately and I've done a lot of typos lately, with nearby keys get in the way of the keys I waned to press.

Anyhow, Biden would have preferred to stay our of Ukraine, but after his huge debacle in Afghanistan, he wanted to avoid another devastating foreign policy disaster, so, Ukraine became his saving-grace, and now, we're stuck with finishing the job, whatever that 'finish' is.

[adorno]

the nation just voted on your interventionist world view and your side lost.

My side won. Your side that interprets the Trump success, is the loser side.

Trump's election does not mean pulling out of our obligations, whether military or relations-wise. Your myopic mind is equal to how democrats think which is no thinking at all. So, I will excuse you from trying to comment with your puny brain.

[JonPreston]

Trump's election does not mean pulling out of our obligations

obligations?

Please explain how the American taxpayer is obligated to Zelensky and the Ukraine.

[Bobbyvotes]

Open your eyes and use your brain.
During Trump-45 there were no hot wars anywhere.
No policeman was active.

[JonPreston]

But, the $27 trillion national debt is not because of the war in Ukraine.

"I've had problems with my eyes lately and I've done a lot of typos lately, with nearby keys get in the way of the keys I waned to press."

arorno, your comment reminds me of the famous double speaker, Professor Irwin Corey. Any relation?

[ansel12]

Try this one instead.

A. Support Russian military expansion.

B. Oppose Russian expansion.

[CarolinaReaganFan]

If grifer Z-ski accepts any more weapons , get Elon to turn off the welfare satellites.

[hflynn]

Adorno I am truly sorry to hear about your eye problem. I hope the issue is something that can be corrected by medication or a relatively save surgical procedure.

A year ago I was probably not going to be able to renew my driver license without cataract surgery. I opted to have the surgery and the results were absolutely, astoundingly positive.

Take care of yourself and if you have options that will improve or correct the problem please pursue them.

[redcatcherb412]

Sadly could none of them think of an American entity that could use the money other than the money pit, 200 billion dollar richer black hole called ukraine?

There are thousands of American families in dire emergency need of funds for food, building material to rebuild flood ravaged homes, clothing, housing ... you name it. Keep the frigging money at home first. Help Americans first, then whatever American tax funds are left over see if it is reasonable to give some to the grifting dollar guzzling government of ukraine.

[adorno]

Take care of yourself and if you have options that will improve or correct the problem please pursue them.

Thanks for the advice.

I am getting treatment at the local VA in Tampa. I'm getting 4 infusions of a medicine/drug called rituximab in the hope of arresting or stopping the progression of pemphigoid, a real nuisance which is hard to treat (there is no cure and it sometimes goes away by itself).

[adorno]

your comment reminds me of the famous double speaker, Professor Irwin Corey.

What I posted about my eye problems is not for your laughing pleasure. It is a real concern and I've even posted to you before about how my typos are due to my eye problems.

Somebody else has seen my posts regarding my eye problems and has been decent in his/her comment and advice.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4278601/posts?page=56#56

You, on the other hand, have been just a pure @sshole.

[adorno]

Please explain how the American taxpayer is obligated to Zelensky and the Ukraine.

The first and foremost duty of the federal government is to keep America safe from overseas threats. It's not just about Ukraine or Zelensky.

Better to keep the wars and enemies at a distance and prevent them from coming into out country. We have to keep Russia at bay; we have to stop them in Ukraine or we will have to be fighting bigger and more dangerous wars in the future. Putin will not stop with just getting Ukraine. Ukraine happens to be the HOT war at the moment, but there is trouble brewing in many places around the world and any of them could erupt into full-scale war.

But, if we let Ukrain fall to Russia, who the heck is going to trust the U.S. in the future. If we can't be counted on, any country in Europe could be next. Then what? Just keep out money at hope? The money could be better spent at home, but when the threats become larger and come ashore, the money we didn't spent overseas will mean that we have to fight bigger wars around the world and perhaps even a world war. But, let's just be near-sighted and let the world burn. We have no business being the world's policeman. Russia and China mean well for the world.