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Court says Mississippi can't count late ballots but the ruling doesn't affect Nov. 5 vote
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Posted on 10/29/2024 8:22:03 AM PDT by TigerClaws

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A conservative federal court said Mississippi cannot count mail-in ballots that arrive shortly after Election Day, however Friday's decision was not expected to affect the Nov. 5 election.

Although the appellate judges firmly asserted that counting late ballots violates federal law, even if those ballots are postmarked by Election Day, the judges stopped short of an order immediately blocking Mississippi from continuing the practice. Their ruling noted federal court precedents have discouraged court actions that change established procedures shortly before an election.

The outcome may be negligible in most elections in heavily Republican Mississippi, but the case could affect voting in swing states if the Supreme Court ultimately issues a ruling.

The three-judge panel of the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals reversed a July decision by U.S. District Judge Louis Guirola Jr., who had dismissed challenges to Mississippi’s election law by the Republican National Committee, the Libertarian Party of Mississippi and others. The appeals court order sent the case back to Guirola for further action.

The appeals court said its ruling Friday would not be returned to a lower court until seven days after the deadline for appealing their decision has passed — which is usually at least 14 days. That would put the effect of the ruling well past Nov. 5.

UCLA law professor Richard Hasen wrote on his election law blog that the appeals court ruling was a “bonkers opinion” and noted that “every other court to face these cases has rejected this argument.”

Republicans filed more than 100 lawsuits challenging various aspects of vote-casting after being chastised repeatedly by judges in 2020 for bringing complaints about how the election was run only after votes were tallied.

Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Whatley praised the ruling for upholding “commonsense ballot safeguards” and said voters deserve “a transparent election which ends on November 5th.”

A spokesperson for the Democratic National Committee did not immediately comment on the ruling.

Mississippi is one of several states with laws allowing mailed ballots to be counted if they are postmarked by Election Day, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. The list includes swing states such as Nevada and states such as Colorado, Oregon and Utah that rely heavily on mail voting.

In July, a federal judge dismissed a similar lawsuit in Nevada. The Republican National Committee is asking the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals to revive that case.

Guirola wrote that Mississippi’s law does not conflict with federal election laws. The suit challenging the Mississippi law argued that the state improperly extends the federal election and that, as a result, “timely, valid ballots are diluted by untimely, invalid ballots.”

Guirola disagreed, writing in July that “no ‘final selection’ is made after the federal election day under Mississippi’s law. All that occurs after election day is the delivery and counting of ballots cast on or before election day.”

Although the Mississippi challenge was led by Republicans and Libertarians, there is bipartisan support for the Mississippi practice. Mississippi Attorney General Lynn Fitch is defending the state’s top election official. Secretary of State Michael Watson a defendant in the case. Both are Republicans.

Watson said in a statement Friday that his office will “explore all available legal options.”

The members of the appellate panel that reversed Guirola were judges James Ho, Stuart Kyle Duncan and Andrew Oldham, all nominated to the 5th Circuit by former President Donald Trump.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electionfraud2024; mississippi
IF the SCOTUS takes up this case and says Constitution requires all votes to be counted on election day = the massive vote fraud post-election will be ended and Trump will win.

Keep an eye on this case.

1 posted on 10/29/2024 8:22:03 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

Except the constitution doesn’t define an election day, other than that the electors must all meet on the same (undefined) day.


2 posted on 10/29/2024 8:23:56 AM PDT by CraigEsq (,)
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To: TigerClaws
Their ruling noted federal court precedents have discouraged court actions that change established procedures shortly before an election

Then WHY THE HELL didn't they do this THREE YEARS AGO? Why wait until a week before the election?

Every level of government is infested with infiltrator traitors or blithering idiot incompetents.

3 posted on 10/29/2024 8:24:01 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“President Trump sells out Madison Square Garden -- Kamala sells out America”)
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To: TigerClaws

Isn’t it strange low level judges can immediately strike down a law they don’t like they can’t issue u a ruling that could affect the outcome of a national election for immediate enforcement.


4 posted on 10/29/2024 8:28:35 AM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: TigerClaws
The object of mail in ballots is to let you by pass a visit to the polling booth....no later than November 5th in 2024.

Consider your mail in to be in line....if it's not there by closing on the 5th...you're not there...and neither is your vote.

5 posted on 10/29/2024 8:33:47 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: TigerClaws
Their ruling noted federal court precedents have discouraged court actions that change established procedures shortly before an election.

This is literally the MO of Elias’ court challenges.

6 posted on 10/29/2024 8:38:01 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

They need a lawsuit to do anything. They can’t make a decision out of thin air.


7 posted on 10/29/2024 9:58:06 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: napscoordinator

The lawsuits should have started in January 2021.


8 posted on 10/29/2024 9:59:39 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“President Trump sells out Madison Square Garden -- Kamala sells out America”)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

They did. Around 70 of them. Most were thrown out by judges including majority trump judges.


9 posted on 10/29/2024 10:00:36 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: CraigEsq

That is a lie. And the ruling clearly says that between the constitution and Existing federal law that there is a set day to cast and receive votes.


10 posted on 10/29/2024 10:38:34 AM PDT by Revel
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To: TigerClaws

I don’t think the Democrats have a chance of carrying Mississippi even with the late ballots.


11 posted on 10/29/2024 10:39:56 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Sgt_Schultze

The things is that the court clearly states that the law is being broken. So It is irrelevant if the court stopped this illegal action or not. The state should follow the law. And criminal cases should be filed against officials who broke it.

Imagine a country where a district court says that someone is breaking the law yet they are allowed to do so for a period of time because it is convenient to let them do so. What have we become?


12 posted on 10/29/2024 10:44:26 AM PDT by Revel
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To: TigerClaws

.....and when I was a little boy I wanted a pony for my birthday, but....never got one.....

...The Big Steal is in motion....the evil Democrats have way to much at stake to worry about biding by any ol’ Constitution or what a Supreme Court might say....some states have already said it will be 2 weeks before a final vote tally is determined.....sad....many third-world countries do a better job of determining the outcome of their major elections than our country does.....


13 posted on 10/29/2024 11:06:44 AM PDT by TokarevM57 (....Standing slightly to the right of Atila the Hun and proud of it, too....! .....)
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To: Sacajaweau

I vote early in person and i die before 11/5/2024, my vote still counts ? how can they claw it back ? does the ballot have a unique identifier ?
I vote AB\mail-in and die before 11/5/2024, my vote may still count depending on the state i live in.

whacky stuff...


14 posted on 10/29/2024 11:29:03 AM PDT by stylin19a (America-has citizens who will cross an ocean to fight for freedom but won't cross the street to vote)
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To: Revel

It is not a lie. Election Day is defined by 2 USC 7, not the constitution.


15 posted on 10/29/2024 6:50:18 PM PDT by CraigEsq (,)
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To: CraigEsq

“Although the appellate judges firmly asserted that counting late ballots violates federal law, even if those ballots are postmarked by Election Day, “


16 posted on 10/29/2024 7:15:58 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Revel

I was addressing the assertion that

“IF the SCOTUS takes up this case and says Constitution requires all votes to be counted on election day = the massive vote fraud post-election will be ended and Trump will win.”

The court of course can say that Federal law requires it. It cannot say the CONSTITUTION requires it - because the constitution doesn’t set an election day. That’s all I’m saying.


17 posted on 10/30/2024 9:13:25 AM PDT by CraigEsq (,)
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