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2020’s Most Accurate Pollster Released a New Poll... And It Is Weird
PJ Media ^ | 10/21/2024 | Matt Margolis

Posted on 10/21/2024 10:33:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

AtlasIntel, known for its accurate national polling in 2020, recently released a new set of numbers for the 2024 race. And boy, are they a doozy.

According to the poll, Donald Trump is leading Kamala Harris nationally by three points, with Trump at 50.7% and Harris at 47.6% with a full field. 

In a head-to-head match-up, Trump leads 50.8% to Kamala’s 48.1%

HEAD-TO-HEAD SCENARIO

The time series for the scenario that includes only Trump and Harris reinforces this stability, with minimal fluctuations for both candidates since Harris entered the race.

pic.twitter.com/CQrV1nsGY9— AtlasIntel (@atlas_intel) October 19, 2024

At first glance, this is huge news for Donald Trump in the final weeks of the campaign. A lead like this in the national popular is widely seen as translating into a stunning Electoral College victory for him.

According to Nate Silver, a 2-3 point lead nationally for Trump would translate to a 100% chance of victory. 

According to AtlasIntel's latest poll, Trump has a 2-3 point lead nationally. According to Nate Silver's Electoral College bias chart, that translates to a 100% chance of victory.

pic.twitter.com/NEKvuE5sYk— Matt Margolis (@mattmargolis) October 19, 2024

The Electoral College outcome should look something like this:

#NEW 2024 election forecast based on most accurate poll of 2020

Electoral college:
🔴 Trump: 323 🏆
🔵 Harris: 215

Popular vote:
🔴 Trump: 50.7% (+3.1)
🔵 Harris: 47.6%

Battleground margins:
🔵 ME: Harris+2.5
🔵 VA: Harris+1.8
🔵 NH: Harris+0.8
🔴 MN: Trump+1.4
🔴 MI:Trump+4.1

🔴 NV: Trump+4.8

🔴 PA: Trump+5.7...

pic.twitter.com/xqi3hSWxPU— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) October 19, 2024

However, that’s not what their swing state polling shows.

(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2024; atlasintel; poll
In fact, when you look closer at the state-by-state results, there are some serious questions about the reliability of these numbers.

The main issue lies in the disconnect between Trump’s national lead and the battleground state data. If Trump truly has a two- to three-point edge across the country, he should be performing significantly better in swing states than this poll suggests.


1 posted on 10/21/2024 10:33:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The weird thing is, the poll shows Harris holding onto narrow leads in several key battlegrounds, like North Carolina and Wisconsin. It’s unlikely that any GOP candidate could have a solid national lead without also sweeping or dominating in these critical states.

Things get even more puzzling when you dive deeper into the specific state results. The poll shows Trump up by 2.5 points in Pennsylvania, 2.9 in Michigan, and 1.7 in Georgia in head-to-head matchups, while Harris leads by slim margins in states like Arizona and North Carolina. These numbers don’t quite add up. For one, it seems unlikely that Georgia would poll to the right of North Carolina and to the left of Michigan and Pennsylvania.

Another strange finding is that Trump’s largest leads are in Michigan and Pennsylvania. A strong lead in these states would logically bode better for him in Wisconsin, where AtlasIntel shows Kamala slightly ahead.

I’m just finding it hard to believe that Trump will perform better in Pennsylvania and Michigan than in Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina.


2 posted on 10/21/2024 10:34:11 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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The weird thing is, the poll shows Harris holding onto narrow leads in several key battlegrounds, like North Carolina and Wisconsin. It’s unlikely that any GOP candidate could have a solid national lead without also sweeping or dominating in these critical states.

Things get even more puzzling when you dive deeper into the specific state results. The poll shows Trump up by 2.5 points in Pennsylvania, 2.9 in Michigan, and 1.7 in Georgia in head-to-head matchups, while Harris leads by slim margins in states like Arizona and North Carolina. These numbers don’t quite add up. For one, it seems unlikely that Georgia would poll to the right of North Carolina and to the left of Michigan and Pennsylvania.

Another strange finding is that Trump’s largest leads are in Michigan and Pennsylvania. A strong lead in these states would logically bode better for him in Wisconsin, where AtlasIntel shows Kamala slightly ahead.

I’m just finding it hard to believe that Trump will perform better in Pennsylvania and Michigan than in Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina.


3 posted on 10/21/2024 10:34:11 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

This is another 2016 scenario IMO. I think Trump will stomp Harris.

The only question remaining is, Is there enough security against Democrat cheating?


4 posted on 10/21/2024 10:38:00 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: SeekAndFind

2020 Oct 20: Biden 51, Trump 46


5 posted on 10/21/2024 10:39:37 AM PDT by TexasGator (FIXED! I. I I l I l l "l)
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump is running up numbers in Cali and NY.


6 posted on 10/21/2024 10:41:58 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: SeekAndFind

This may be both weird and real. The Fox news poll last week that showed up by two had him down by 6 (although with a high margin of error) in the battleground States.

This NYT article speculates that Trump is running up his margin in FL and adding support in CA and NY. So the assumption that a tie in the national vote gives the edge to Trump in the battleground States may be wrong.

Anyway: get out and vote and call your friends in battleground States.


7 posted on 10/21/2024 10:42:03 AM PDT by edwinland
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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/08/upshot/florida-poll-harris-trump.html

The article I mentioned


8 posted on 10/21/2024 10:42:32 AM PDT by edwinland
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To: SeekAndFind
Too much time, too much data, too much computing power, too many models, too close to call.

They are polishing a brick or a turd.

9 posted on 10/21/2024 10:45:35 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (More important than why there was nobody protecting the AGR roof, how did Crooks know that?)
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To: Jim W N

>This is another 2016 scenario IMO. I think Trump will stomp Harris.

Yeah, it’s looking like (if there’s nothing stopping it) a real clock-cleaner for dems, but who knows. If VA or NH goes to Trump early, though, there’ll be no one committing fraud because of fear of investigation.


10 posted on 10/21/2024 10:55:05 AM PDT by struggle
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To: SeekAndFind

As Han Solo said to Luke Skywalker: “Don’t get cocky, kid.”

A lot can happen in two weeks.


11 posted on 10/21/2024 10:56:40 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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“This is another 2016 scenario IMO. I think Trump will stomp Harris.”

Yes, if only legal ballots are counted. You mentioned cheating. This year it will monumental. In 2016 they had no clue that their normal pissant cheating would be ineffective. They learned well for 2020, and this will be worse.

And before, it was “only” cheating. The world is very aware that murder is not off the table for them this time around.


12 posted on 10/21/2024 11:04:12 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (I'm voting for the felon with the pierced ear. )
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To: SeekAndFind

They have had NC Pro Harris through 2 polls, I believe last time they had her up 3 or 4 points or more there, and their claims toward this were due toe Governor’s race debacle.. or basically up ballot drag down on Trump....

I find this dubious because I really don’t see a down ballot race truly negatively affecting the Presidential race, particularly with Trump on the ballot, but we shall see.


13 posted on 10/21/2024 11:16:14 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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The article claimed there was never a tie in the Electoral College. Not true. From Co-Pilot ai:

Yes, there has been a tie in the U.S. Electoral College. The most notable instance occurred in the election of 1800 between Thomas Jefferson and Aaron Burr. Both candidates received 73 electoral votes, leading to a tie. This situation was resolved by the House of Representatives, which eventually elected Jefferson as President after 36 ballots1.

The rules were different then, but there was a tie.
14 posted on 10/21/2024 11:18:23 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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To: SeekAndFind

later


15 posted on 10/21/2024 12:12:48 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Import The Third World,Become The Third World)
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To: SeekAndFind

They just want to be able to report 269-269. Everyone dreams about this every 4 years. Theorically Trump is doing better in NY and CA which moves the neddle nationally. It would be fair to ask why he would be doing better in NY and CA but that doesn’t translate anywhere else. More likely the sauce that they used in 2020 worked for 2020 but not 2024. Who can accurately predict the turnout. Anyone can b3 right or wrong.


16 posted on 10/21/2024 12:25:30 PM PDT by wiseprince (Me)
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To: SeekAndFind

Betting markets are moving to Trump


17 posted on 10/21/2024 1:19:19 PM PDT by redgolum
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To: SeekAndFind
Electoral college: 🔴 Trump: 323 🏆 🔵 Harris: 215 Popular vote: 🔴 Trump: 50.7% (+3.1) 🔵 Harris: 47.6% Battleground margins: 🔵 ME: Harris+2.5 🔵 VA: Harris+1.8 🔵 NH: Harris+0.8 🔴 MN: Trump+1.4 🔴 MI:Trump+4.1 🔴 NV: Trump+4.8 🔴 PA: Trump+5.7...

The best graphic.

That said, it's only if, AND ONLY IF we stimulate SUPER, NO GOP VOTER LEFT BEHIND ... TURNOUT!

Sorry for the shouting, this election is all about turnout, and what we can to support the legitimate votes of registered GOP voters.

18 posted on 10/21/2024 2:07:36 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never...in nothing, great or small...Winston ChurchIill)
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