Posted on 10/17/2024 4:56:26 AM PDT by Cronos
Business leaders and local officials in Tulsa, Okla., puzzled for years over how to fill the hole created when young people left for big coastal cities. What, they wondered, could keep professionals rooted in the heartland?
Rather than fighting to hold on to native Tulsans, they decided to recruit outsiders. In recent years, the rise of virtual work opened up a new way of responding to the city’s brain drain.
Five years after the George Kaiser Family Foundation began offering $10,000 to remote workers willing to move to Tulsa for at least a year, some 3,300 people have taken up the offer.
...remote workers who moved to Tulsa saved an average of $25,000 more on annual housing costs than the group that was chosen but didn’t move. The relocations were also a boon for the State of Oklahoma and the City of Tulsa, bringing in some $14.9 million in annual income tax revenue and $5.8 million in sales taxes from the remote workers
...Tulsa was losing roughly 1,000 more college-educated people than it was absorbing each year from 2015 to 2019. During that period, people who moved to Oklahoma were nearly all over the age of 45 and mostly had incomes below the state average, according to data from the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City.
...Since 2020, 40 percent of those moving to Oklahoma were between the ages of 25 and 44.
...Jasmine Renae Ball, 32, is part of Tulsa’s pandemic-era wave of remote-work migrants. She had been living in Los Angeles.. In 2020, She bought a three-bedroom home in Tulsa for roughly $185,000, one-third of the cost of smaller apartments she had been looking at in Los Angeles. Ms. Ball also persuaded her retired parents to move from Northern California to Tulsa, along with her younger sister.
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Say ‘Hi’ to Rocky while you are out there.
Yo!
Remote work can be done from India and Vietnam.
The only reason cities want you there is your wallet. They offer nothing outside of that, unless you like traffic, liberals, sexual deviants, noise, crime, unique smells, rude people, decaying infrastructure, and crappy pop culture.
I don't grasp the basic premise of this article. Why should remote workers have to move anywhere?
Regards,
"Can be" is the key term there. Any work that could have been outsourced to India or Vietnam already was, starting decades ago.
These stateside remote workers are doing what the overseas employees couldn't do.
The article discussed cheaper housing and cost of living. I can’t work remotely and I have to live within a reasonable commute to work. If I could work remotely, I would live in an another part of the country, and spend time traveling in an RV.
I'm aware of that! But the basic premise of the article is that Tulsa wants to "entice" or "lure" remote workers to come and live in Tulsa, itself - which makes absolutely no sense.
If Tulsa needs remote workers, it should hire some Indians or Pakistanis, who could then perform the needed work from their homes in India or Pakistan.
Or am I missing something?! The article repeatedly mentions remote workers - not "hybrid" workers. So it stands to reason that the article is about workers who need never actually set foot in Tulsa. Rather, they could stay put in their native countries.
(If it's a question of preferring American remote workers, then they could remain in their hometowns in Maine, Montana, the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, or the Big Island of Hawaii, and continue enjoying all the benefits (family, community, etc.) without budging an inch.)
Remote workers in really pricey conurbations - Manhattan and the like - who have no particular attachment to those urban hell-holes would probably have to be insane to even only consider Tulsa.
Regards,
I'm aware of that! But the basic premise of the article is that Tulsa wants to "entice" or "lure" remote workers to come and live in Tulsa, itself - which makes absolutely no sense.
If Tulsa needs remote workers, it should hire some Indians or Pakistanis, who could then perform the needed work from their homes in India or Pakistan.
Or am I missing something?! The article repeatedly mentions remote workers - not "hybrid" workers. So it stands to reason that the article is about workers who need never actually set foot in Tulsa. Rather, they could stay put in their native countries.
(If it's a question of preferring American remote workers, then they could remain in their hometowns in Maine, Montana, the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, or the Big Island of Hawaii, and continue enjoying all the benefits (family, community, etc.) without budging an inch.)
Remote workers in really pricey conurbations - Manhattan and the like - who have no particular attachment to those urban hell-holes would probably have to be insane to even only consider Tulsa.
Regards,
Tulsa? No thanks. I watch the first 48. Kind of like hearing Jim Cantore is coming to you town when a hurricane is in your hemisphere.
What the article doesn’t mention is that the vast majority of these remote “workers” are foreign born (H1-B scabs). And they vote for the Rats. /spit
Yeah, I'm in Tulsa County and we hate seeing kalifornians move here. We've got an open borders globalist as governor and a high per capita number of sodomites.
And when Tulsa's mayor agonized about the number of pot smoking bums living in our streets, where did he go for advice? Denver. How idiotic.
Tulsa wants to be like Denver and Denver wants to be like San Fransicko.
I was part of the effort Tulsa put into attracting people to the new co-working space established by the Kaiser Foundation. It’s called 36 Degrees North (Tulsa’s latitude) & had an office there as part of the support offered for the recent arrivals, some of whom were establishing new businesses. I never observed any that fit the H1- B category you have cited. I’ve become closely acquainted with one person who came from Chicago to reduce his costs while still doing the same work in the insurance industry. He has also established a video production company that does work internationally. Quite a burgeoning asset to Tulsa, IMO.
I have a customer who has locations in both Tulsa and OKC.
These cities are both much lower cost of living than places in TX now. You can still buy a starter home for under $300K. Which is pretty rare in most US metro areas now.
I have never been to either, but they attracting people to move there. A buddy of mine who currently lives in Phoenix is considering moving there.
Either of these OKC cities is a short connector flight to DFW. Which then connects you to anywhere in the world. They are also both centrally located geographically in the USA. The weather is not bad except the occasional tornado.
At least they get to live on Tulsa Time!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSRWuAxh9v0
Tulsa is even mention in this Huey Lewis and the News song!
Heart of Rock and Roll
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXPhNgCaDqg
I like and prefer going to the office. I don’t want to work remotely.
Don’t be fooled about the weather. The winters are brutal with the ice storms and below zero.
workers in India (for example) have been “remote” for decades.
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