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Zelensky unveils ‘Victory Plan’ after failing to drum up additional support from allies
CNN ^ | Oct 16, 2024 | Lauren Kent, Kostya Gak and Svitlana Vlasova

Posted on 10/16/2024 6:49:52 AM PDT by McGruff

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky presented his long-anticipated “Victory Plan” to Ukrainian parliament on Wednesday, after failing to drum up additional, tangible support last week during meetings with European allies.

The plan, which consists of five points and three additional “secret” points shared only with certain partners, would be a bridge toward future peace talks with Russia, Zelensky told lawmakers in Kyiv, as he aims to bolster Ukraine’s position enough to end the war.

At the heart of Zelensky’s plan is Ukraine’s desire for an invitation to join the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), which would be a precursor to full NATO membership, but something that Ukraine’s allies have been cool on with the country still at war with Russia.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine; War
KEYWORDS: beggarofkiev; bloodthirstyzeepers; delusionalzeepers; escalation; foreigntrolls; foreigntrollsonfr; killkillkillforpeace; mic; nato; slaviccivilwar; slavictrolls; tothelastukrainian; ukraine; welfarewar; zestinky

1 posted on 10/16/2024 6:49:52 AM PDT by McGruff
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2 posted on 10/16/2024 6:51:22 AM PDT by McGruff (Ask everyone, Are you better off than you were four years ago?)
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To: McGruff

“We’re going to do the same thing - only MORE!”


3 posted on 10/16/2024 6:52:03 AM PDT by MortMan (Charter member of AAAAA - American Association Against Alliteration Abuse)
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To: McGruff

Z-Man’s “Victory Plan” is already DOA.


4 posted on 10/16/2024 7:00:49 AM PDT by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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To: MortMan

The “same thing” has been holding off the second largest military in the world for 2 1/2 years.


5 posted on 10/16/2024 7:01:53 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: McGruff
--- "...three additional 'secret' points shared only with certain partners...."

So the full parliament aren't partners?

I hear a fat lady warming up to sing her big aria....

6 posted on 10/16/2024 7:02:52 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Who’s she singing for? The end of the world?


7 posted on 10/16/2024 7:05:43 AM PDT by bgill
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To: McGruff

I hope Ukraine loses.


8 posted on 10/16/2024 7:06:18 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: McGruff

Ukraine is near the point where if two schoolchildren speak Russian to each other, they will be PUNISHED.

It is a VERY SICK society, HELLBENT on Ethnic ‘Purification’.

https://en.news-front.su/2024/10/11/the-ukrainian-education-ministry-has-backed-a-ban-on-the-russian-language-during-breaks-at-school/?ysclid=m2by691g55301849468


9 posted on 10/16/2024 7:10:26 AM PDT by BobL
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I think a victory plan would have a much better chance to succeed if they hadn’t already spent most of their weapons and military age men already. This reminds me of a compulsive gambler who is going to the third credit card for a cash advance having already spent every dollar in the checking account and maxing out the other credit cards. Hey they might win it all back! Once you have gotten in this deep the only option is to go deeper because walking away is not an option.


10 posted on 10/16/2024 7:11:44 AM PDT by webheart
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

“So the full parliament aren’t partners?

I hear a fat lady warming up to sing her big aria....”

Like I said, the victory plan is joining NATO, invoking Article 5, and getting the USA to win it for them. The problem for them is most NATO powers will block joining until there is a peace agreement that both sides will accept.


11 posted on 10/16/2024 7:21:24 AM PDT by rxh4n1 ( )
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To: bgill
--- "Who's she singing for? The end of the world?"

Best I understand it, she is always singing for the fee she collects at the end of the performance. And the applause, of course.

12 posted on 10/16/2024 7:22:31 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Petrosius

“The “same thing” has been holding off the second largest military in the world for 2 1/2 years.”

Yes, and they should be proud. It gives them some leverage at the peace talks. The problem is they don’t have the strength to win on their own.


13 posted on 10/16/2024 7:24:07 AM PDT by rxh4n1 ( )
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To: Petrosius

If Ukraine hadn’t received all these US and NATO weapons and Billions they would have surrendered long ago.


14 posted on 10/16/2024 8:32:25 AM PDT by McGruff (Ask everyone, Are you better off than you were four years ago?)
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To: McGruff
If Ukraine hadn’t received all these US and NATO weapons and Billions they would have surrendered long ago.

Which is why it was good to give it to them.

15 posted on 10/16/2024 8:40:55 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: nwrep

I hope Ukraine loses.
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They already have lost. Their entire infrastructure is in shambles, little electricity, very few military age males left ( none voluntarily enlisting), currency in shambles, record unpayable debt, “ other People’s money fully spent”, manufacturing kaput, wards of the welfare state.

Little talked about, almost a $$$ Trillion to rebuild ( if it ever is) with few willing to “ invest” in rebuilding…thelenders know they will never get a return on their loan ( their Rada already passed laws approving their default)…a bleak post war future.


16 posted on 10/16/2024 9:07:28 AM PDT by delta7
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To: Petrosius

We’ll just Afghanistan withdrawal in the end. After so many lives lost and destruction come the rebuilding. Ready for trillions more in aid?


17 posted on 10/16/2024 9:10:06 AM PDT by McGruff (Ask everyone, Are you better off than you were four years ago?)
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