Posted on 10/04/2024 9:41:42 AM PDT by Red Badger
Folks, if you make out a paper ballot to vote, take pictures of the front and back of your completed ballot before you cast it.
Just a thought.
I certainly plan on doing just that.
The purpose of the rumor is to intimidate those timid voters who don't want to be arrested and thrown under the jail like the FBI did to the J6ers. All they need to do is make Conservatives stay home. They have already satisfied their goal. None of this has to make sense for it to be intimidation.
“The FBI allegedly denies the claim, stating that these allegations are false and clarifying that federal law prohibits armed federal personnel from being at polling places”
I did not see any claim that they would be armed. All I read was that they would be “Plain clothed”. So this denial is not really a denial at all.
“Two things to remember, folks:
1) The FBI has no police powers.
2) Polling places are under state and county jurisdiction.”
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Simply wrong. From the DOJ:
“What authority do FBI special agents have to make arrests in the United States, its territories, or on foreign soil?
In the U.S. and its territories, FBI special agents may make arrests for any federal offense committed in their presence or when they have reasonable grounds to believe that the person to be arrested has committed, or is committing, a felony violation of U.S. laws. On foreign soil, FBI special agents generally do not have authority to make arrests except in certain cases where, with the consent of the host country, Congress has granted the FBI extraterritorial jurisdiction.”
Federal offense.
Here is the statutory authority for the FBI to investigate and make arrests for crimes involving violations of federal law:
From the DOJ and Cornell Law:
“Where is the FBI’s authority written down?
The FBI has a range of legal authorities that enable it to investigate federal crimes and threats to national security, as well as to gather intelligence and assist other law enforcement agencies.
Federal law gives the FBI authority to investigate all federal crime not assigned exclusively to another federal agency (28, Section 533 of the U.S. Code). Title 28, U.S. Code, Section 533, authorizes the attorney general to appoint officials to detect and prosecute crimes against the United States. Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 3052, specifically authorizes special agents and officials of the FBI to make arrests, carry firearms, and serve warrants. Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 3107, empowers special agents and officials to make seizures under warrant for violation of federal statutes. The FBI’s authority to investigate specific criminal violations is conferred by numerous other congressional statutes—such as the Congressional Assassination, Kidnapping, and Assault Act (Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 351). The FBI has special investigative jurisdiction to investigate violations of state law in limited circumstances, specifically felony killings of state law enforcement officers (28 U.S.C. § 540), violent crimes against interstate travelers (28 U.S.C. § 540A0), and serial killers (28 U.S.C. §540B). A request by an appropriate state official is required before the FBI has authority to investigate these matters. In addition, Title 28, Code of Federal Regulations, Section 0.85, outlines the investigative and other responsibilities of the FBI, including the collection of fingerprint cards and identification records; the training of state and local law enforcement officials at the FBI National Academy; and the operation of the National Crime Information Center and the FBI Laboratory.
The FBI has authority to investigate threats to national security pursuant to presidential executive orders, attorney general authorities, and various statutory sources. Title II of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004, Public Law 108-458, 118 Stat. 3638, outlines FBI intelligence authorities, as does Executive Order 12333; 50 U.S.C. 401 et seq.; 50 U.S.C. 1801 et seq.
This combination of authorities gives the FBI the unique ability to address national security and criminal threats that are increasingly intertwined and to shift between the use of intelligence tools such as surveillance or recruiting sources and law enforcement tools of arrest and prosecution. Unlike many domestic intelligence agencies around the world, the FBI can shift seamlessly between intelligence collection and action. This allows the FBI to continue gathering intelligence on a subject to learn more about his or her social and financial network, and shift gears quickly to arrest him or her if harm to an innocent person appears imminent. The threat of prosecution, in turn, can be used to encourage cooperation to support further intelligence gathering.”
“They can only do this if the County Sheriff signs off on it, Maricopa maybe, Mohave County, they would most likely be arrested.”
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Nonsense. A county sheriff has no special authority outside the County that elects them. Even then, they are subject to federal law and the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution just like every other local and state resident.
Well, actually, they don't. It is an unchartered organization operating without delegation of powers, the whole validity of which rests upon their appearance as a line-item in the budget. They are FedGov's hired in-house detectives and the whole reason they do not have to abide by all the same strictures which are applied to real police (recording interviews, not entrapping innocents, not lying to judges/juries) is that they aren't real police. They get to act just like slimeball PIs.
The Rep should be there too. All the R Reps of AZ. Armed too.
...So, not a citable authority.
I think everyone in this thread needs to study just what, in constitutional law, "police powers" actually means. I doesn't mean what most of you think it means. Though the power to police confers the power to investigate, the power to investigate in no way confers the power to police. In constitutional law, policing power is the designated authority to maintain a legally controlling presence to direct others in accordance with law, with the power to intercede in instances of law-breaking and investigate after-the-fact being implicit. Police powers are on-going and ever present, whereas investigative powers are merely "episodic".
3) The sheriff of the county can kick the feds out of said county.
You clearly have never studied the subject. The Supremacy Clause: "This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding", obviously is NOT saying that FedGov is supreme. It IS saying that the CONSTITUTION is supreme and that, therefore, laws made in accordance with (pursuant to) the Constitution enjoy supremacy over laws which are *not pursuant*, regardless of origin. FedGov laws are found to not be Constitutional all the time, which could never happen if your understanding of the Constitution were correct.
“...So, not a citable authority.
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Cornell Law Review is citable in any court.
If you don’t like their pieces, look directly at the enabling statutes. Better yet, try out your kooky claim with the FBI some time. Be sure to remind them about not having arrest powers.
“The sheriff of the county can kick the feds out of said county.”
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No sheriff has such legal authority. In fact, federal officers need not discuss enforcement actions with any local officials. Sheriffs aren’t special. They’re just county employees.
Meanwhile, another case of Feds misbehaving: https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2024/10/04/black-man-details-alleged-beating-white-supremacist-group-boston/?p1=hp_featurestack
Lookout For ?
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What to do if You Catch One ????
My guessing the FIB are helping the Cartel.
Reprints of Li'l Abner may also be cited, but neither is authoritative. DOJ and third parties cannot create powers by way of proclamation.
If you don’t like their pieces, look directly at the enabling statutes. Better yet, try out your kooky claim with the FBI some time.
When apologists for that particular branch of the Mafia look back in the record for a declarative "act of creation", they always have to settle for it's first appearance as an expenditure in the federal budget. Why would they do that if they can just refer us to the institutional charter?
Be sure to remind them about not having arrest powers.
I didn't really claim that they can't arrest. I said the power to investigate crimes after-the-fact didn't confer the power to police. After all, even private people can investigate and arrest. But then, you hold views only someone with your reading disability would likely believe.
Like a Dog chasing a Car...
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What’s he going to Do when he
Catches It!?!
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