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The Plain truth: Carbon credits are worthless
American Thinker ^ | 10/01/2024 | Jack Hellner

Posted on 10/01/2024 8:41:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The first thing people have to know is there is absolutely zero scientific evidence that CO2, cars, oil, coal, natural gas, methane, or anything else that is being blamed for the climate has any direct relationship with temperatures, sea levels, or storm activity.

Temperatures have risen and fallen the last 160 years, just as they have for billions of years, while we have used all of these products.

Droughts come and go today, as they have throughout history. The reason there are so many deserts is long droughts throughout history.

Floods and storms come and go, as they always have. The Earth is 70% covered by water because of huge periods of precipitation, unaffected by humans.

So, essentially, reducing carbon is a government policy created in search of a solution when the problem hasn’t been identified.

Carbon credits were created as a means for billionaires, governments, and companies to pretend they were doing something to control the climate and to offset their huge carbon footprint. The market has moved around billions of dollars as a fictional solution. It is essentially fraud.

When a billionaire like Bloomberg or Bill Gates purchases carbon credits or plants trees, it does nothing to reduce the carbon emitted by their jets and mansions. The carbon is exactly the same.

When GM, Ford, and Chrysler purchase credits from Tesla to pretend they comply with government emission rules, it does not reduce the carbon from big trucks, but it makes Musk richer.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: carbon; climatechange; co2; conjob; ecoterrorism; ecoterrorists; fraud; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; greenhouse; greennewdeal; scam
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1 posted on 10/01/2024 8:41:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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And the experts know that it is all a fraud.

Is it true that 90% of carbon credits are worthless?

A nine-month joint investigation by journalists from The Guardian, Die Welt and SourceMaterial has shown that 90% of the REDD+ carbon credits from the world’s largest offsetting standard actually have no positive impact on the climate.


2 posted on 10/01/2024 8:42:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
And the experts know that it is all a fraud.

Is it true that 90% of carbon credits are worthless?

A nine-month joint investigation by journalists from The Guardian, Die Welt and SourceMaterial has shown that 90% of the REDD+ carbon credits from the world’s largest offsetting standard actually have no positive impact on the climate.


3 posted on 10/01/2024 8:42:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ll trade you 100 Beanie Babies for ten carbon credits..................


4 posted on 10/01/2024 8:42:33 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: SeekAndFind

More worthless than paper?


5 posted on 10/01/2024 8:42:35 AM PDT by xoxox
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To: SeekAndFind

WTAH? You mean we’ve been lied to? :>)


6 posted on 10/01/2024 8:43:51 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from withinE? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why does the author single out Musk?


7 posted on 10/01/2024 8:48:59 AM PDT by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Chemtrails are the source of the torrential rain Those crisscross vapors in the sky are not from airliners.

These expand, billow up, combine into hotdog-looking clouds, darken, and produce heavy rain.

I notice an increase of chemtrails before a storm front comes in.


8 posted on 10/01/2024 8:50:51 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose GOD is the LORD. (Psalm 33:12))
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To: subterfuge

Tesla’s profits are often driven by the sales of carbon credits, not so much cars. It’s fair to point that out. He sells billions of dollars of them. I’m not even exactly sure how it works but he gets credits for each zero emission car and since he doesn’t make ICE cars he doesn’t offset them, they are just surplus which he builds up and sells whenever he needs to plug a hole in quarterly results. He didn’t invent the program but it exists so he might as well take advantage of it.


9 posted on 10/01/2024 8:55:15 AM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: SeekAndFind
Carbon credits were created as a means for billionaires, governments, and companies to pretend they were doing something to control the climate and to offset their huge carbon footprint. The market has moved around billions of dollars as a fictional solution. It is essentially fraud.

Carbon credits are not essentially fraud - they are EXPLICITLY designed for fraud.

Its a simulacrum of our present printed, fiat, monetary system.

Carbon credits, like Federal Reserve notes - are created ex nihilo - from nothing.

For example, a company like Blackrock owns some green space somewhere. After lobbying and corruption, government approves their venture to sell carbon credits to be traded among "carbon users." They have thus created a new currency unit. This new currency is then bought by other banks, and packaged, traded and optioned - for sale to others, which is then taxed by government. Ultimately, its highly inflationary, and the cost is again born by consumers and individuals.

Government and their crony bankers are attempting to literally turn AIR into money. An incredible and audacious scam.

10 posted on 10/01/2024 8:55:40 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind

Musk would disagree, he has made a butt load of money from carbon credits.


11 posted on 10/01/2024 8:59:57 AM PDT by algore
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To: SeekAndFind

fortunately other countries outside of the US and EU are not playing this rigged game.


12 posted on 10/01/2024 9:02:14 AM PDT by poinq (thics and customs and did not take an oath to the country. And did not follow the country's traditio)
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“Chemtrails are the source of the torrential rain”

I have not seen a correlation, but it is really nasty how it is a beautiful sunny morning, I see them Chem trailing really hard and by afternoon it is all hazy and the sky mostly looks hazy and ugly.

I think sometimes they put other chemicals in them to modify the moods of the masses. I have seen days where they are super heavy and different looking and I say to myself, oh crap.. what is about to hit the fan ?


13 posted on 10/01/2024 9:04:31 AM PDT by algore
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To: monkeyshine; subterfuge
The way a lot of carbon credits work for Musk/Tesla is that oil refineries are charged a carbon tax for every gallon of gasoline they produce. They can remove that carbon tax if they buy fake carbon credits from someone like Tesla, which the government gives to Tesla for selling a lot of EV's, ostensibly to save the world from warmageddon.

The carbon tax that refineries pay (or receive if they make ethanol) is called RIN: Renewable Identification Number. It was originally conceived as part of the ethanol formula. But it has sense morphed IMHO to being a war on gasoline to punish refineries for making too much gasoline (a cost passed onto consumers).

14 posted on 10/01/2024 9:07:48 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

Interesting. I read years ago that the carbon credit thing started with Enron who cooked up the fantasy of carbon credits.


15 posted on 10/01/2024 9:19:15 AM PDT by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The 4th Estate (media) and failing State education are the real villians, as they go along with the climate scams.


16 posted on 10/01/2024 9:29:25 AM PDT by citizen (Political incrementalism is like compound interest for liberals - every little bit adds up.)
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To: xoxox

Should be. Tax the heck out of the paper virtue signaling. I just haven’t figured out how get such taxes paid only rich green libs and not passed on to me via higher electrical prices, etc.


17 posted on 10/01/2024 9:30:57 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (They don't care. We don't scare!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The desire was to create a new type of currency to be used ostensibly for “the sake of mankind”. In reality it was a scheme for the originators to transfer wealth from those who earned it into their pockets.


18 posted on 10/01/2024 9:38:16 AM PDT by Rlsau1
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To: algore

I do not buy the chemtrail conspiracy theory, as there would have to be literally thousands of participants to manufacture, load and disperse umpteen thousands of tons of “chemicals” - and at great expense. There would have long ago been visible and credible whistleblowers.

The “chemtrails” are nothing more than the hot exhaust from regular jet engines acting on water vapor and ice crystals in the high atmosphere.

This nonsense is part or what gives the internet a well-deserved bad reputation, acting, as it does, on the gullible.


19 posted on 10/01/2024 9:39:01 AM PDT by citizen (Political incrementalism is like compound interest for liberals - every little bit adds up.)
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I have watched the chemtrail planes circle over my area, with no trails, then they turn them on and start making criss cross lines.

my kids did not believe either till they were hiking in the mountains and saw a bunch of planes do the same thing.

I remember watching contrails when I was a kid, and I still see them today.

the “chemtrails” do not dissipate, they spread out into a large haze that does not go away and the whole sky turns an ugly grey.

if you look up, instead of just staring at your personal tracking device all the time you might spot the difference


20 posted on 10/01/2024 10:22:23 AM PDT by algore
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