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‘Seriously?’: German foreign ministry trolls Russia for claiming it invaded Poland in 1939 to protect Ukrainians
Firstpost ^ | 20th September 2024

Posted on 09/23/2024 3:02:24 AM PDT by Cronos

Russian foreign ministry claimed on X that the Soviet Union’s invasion of Poland prevented genocide in Western Belarus and Western Ukraine. History shows, and Germany pointed out, they are wrong

The Hitler-Stalin pact was a secret agreement between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany, carved Poland into zones of control for both powers, setting the stage for the start of World War II. Images courtesy: Wikimedia Commons

Germany reacted with disbelief after Russia defended its 1939 invasion of Poland, claiming it was a move to protect Ukrainian and Belarusian populations, not an act of aggression.

Marking the 85th anniversary of the Soviet Union’s joint invasion of Poland with Nazi Germany, Russia’s foreign ministry on Tuesday (September 17) posted a video on social media asserting that the Soviet Union acted to prevent “genocide” of Ukrainians and Belarusians in Poland’s eastern regions.

“On September 17, 1939, the Red Army launched a military operation in Poland’s eastern regions, preventing the genocide of the population of Western Belarus and Western Ukraine,” the foreign ministry wrote on X, formerly known as Twitter.

“Seriously?” the German foreign ministry retorted, adding the map of the partition of Poland from the secret protocol to the German-Soviet Boundary and Friendship Treaty, signed after both Soviet and Nazi German troops invaded the country. The Ukrainian foreign ministry supported modern-day Germany by posting an angry goose meme captioned “Who made a deal with the Nazis to partition Poland? Who did this?”

Germany’s Federal Foreign Office signed the map with the hashtags #MolotovRibbentropPact and #HitlerStalinPact, but in reality, this map was part of the Boundary and Friendship Treaty, which was signed a little later, on Sep. 28, 1939 — after the Soviet invasion of Poland and its double defeat by the Nazis and the USSR. This lesser-known treaty fixed the situation on the ground and resulted in the USSR getting control over much less Polish territory than had been outlined under the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. In compensation, Nazi Germany gave up its claims to Lithuania, releasing it into the USSR’s sphere of influence.

The Boundary and Friendship Treaty’s additional protocol provided for the transfer of populations from the occupied territories between the two countries. Germany accepted persons of German origin, while the USSR accepted ethnic Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, and Ruthenians. The USSR refused to accept refugees of other ethnicities, most notably Jews, and returned them to the German zone of occupation, where most of them became victims of the Holocaust. After Nazi Germany attacked the Soviet Union on Jun. 22, 1941, the Boundary and Friendship Treaty, like all other Soviet-German arrangements, lost its force.

Soviet invasion of Poland on September 17th, 1939

On Sep. 1, 1939, Nazi Germany began its invasion of Poland from the west, and on Sep. 17, 1939, Soviet troops followed suit from the east. It is this invasion that the Russian foreign ministry calls “preventing the genocide of the population.” In reality, however, Stalin’s USSR and Hitler's Germany divided Poland between themselves.

Nazi Germany's Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, outlined the Third Reich's plans in telegrams to Soviet Foreign Commissar Vyacheslav Molotov on Sep. 3, 1939, after the signing of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and Germany's invasion of Poland:

“We definitely expect to have beaten the Polish Army decisively in a few weeks. We would then keep under military occupation the area that was established at Moscow as the German sphere of interest. We would naturally, however, for military reasons, also have to proceed further against such Polish military forces as are at that time located in the Polish area belonging to the Russian sphere of interest.

“Please discuss this at once with Molotov and see if the Soviet Union does not consider it desirable for Russian forces to move at the proper time against Polish forces in the Russian sphere of interest and, for their part, to occupy this territory. In our estimation, this would be not only a relief for us, but also, in the sense of the Moscow agreements, in the Soviet interest as well.”

The Soviet Union indeed justified the invasion of Poland by reference to the implausible claim that, if they did not intervene, “the consanguine Ukrainians and White Russians living on the territory of Poland who have been left to the whim of fate should be left defenseless.” For that, the Soviet leadership blamed the supposed “internal instability” of the Polish state, which was revealed by the Polish-German War. The Sep. 17 note by Vyacheslav Molotov for the Polish Ambassador Waclaw Grzybowski reads:
“During 10 days of military operations Poland has lost all its industrial regions and cultural centers. Warsaw as the capital of Poland no longer exists. The Polish Government has scattered and gives no signs of life. This means that the Polish State and its Government factually have ceased to exist. By this fact in itself treaties concluded between the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and Poland have lost their validity. Left to shift for itself and left without leadership Poland has become a convenient field for all kinds of eventualities and unforeseen contingencies which may constitute a threat to the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Therefore, having been heretofore neutral, the Soviet Government can no longer adopt a neutral attitude to these facts.”
Ambassador Grzybowski resolutely refused to accept the document and rejected Molotov’s claims:
“None of the arguments used to justify the transformation of Polish-Soviet agreements into useless pieces of paper withstand reasonable criticism. According to my information, the head of the Polish state and the government of Poland are on the Polish territory. ...The sovereignty of any state exists as long as soldiers of its regular army are fighting. ...What the note claims about the situation of national minorities in Poland is nonsense. All of the minorities are actively demonstrating their full solidarity with Poland in its fight against the German invasion. ...Napoleon Bonaparte captured Moscow, but as long as Kutuzov's armies existed, Russia was also believed to exist.”


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1 posted on 09/23/2024 3:02:24 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Given that Ukraine is now run by a remnant of the Nazis, it makes sense in an odd way.

People who practice occult religions, like the Nazis and the globalists, tend to speak in symbols like this.


2 posted on 09/23/2024 3:11:07 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: Cronos

I don’t think any German should take the moral high ground when it comes to 1939-1945 and Eastern Europe.


3 posted on 09/23/2024 3:11:30 AM PDT by LukeL
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The globalist cabal might get their thrills speaking symbolically like this, but I think they don’t understand how weak and cowardly it is.


4 posted on 09/23/2024 3:13:26 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: Cronos

It would seem that Russia is living in an alternate (and highly fictional) reality.

CC


5 posted on 09/23/2024 3:18:19 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: reasonisfaith
reasonisfaith Given that Ukraine is now run by a remnant of the Nazis,

Yes, right, and here is the elected President of Ukraine

btw, are you for real?

6 posted on 09/23/2024 3:21:51 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: reasonisfaith
reasonisfaith Given that Ukraine is now run by a remnant of the Nazis,

Yes, right, and here is the elected President of Ukraine

btw, are you for real?

7 posted on 09/23/2024 3:22:34 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: LukeL

They aren’t - they are just pointing out that the Russians and Nazi Germany were allies who jointly started WWII by invading Poland


8 posted on 09/23/2024 3:23:17 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: reasonisfaith

The Russians killed more people than Germany did. Neither one of them has room to talk.


9 posted on 09/23/2024 3:24:35 AM PDT by roving (Deplorable Erectionists Listless Vessel )
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To: reasonisfaith
So, "reasonisfaith" - do you really believe that, as the Russian federation foreign ministry wrote On September 17, 1939, the Red army launched a military operation in Poland's eastern regions, preventing the genocide of the population of Western Belarus and Western Ukraine

Do you, reaIsfaith, really believe that?

10 posted on 09/23/2024 3:25:04 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Poland condemns Ukraine's commemoration of wartime nationalist leader Bandera

After officials and institutions in Ukraine – including the national parliament – marked the birth anniversary of nationalist leader Stepan Bandera, Polish government figures have criticised the commemoration of a man they see as responsible for the genocide of ethnic Poles and Jews.

https://notesfrompoland.com/2023/01/02/poland-condemns-ukraines-commemoration-of-wartime-nationalist-leader-bandera/

11 posted on 09/23/2024 3:26:47 AM PDT by McGruff (Ask everyone, Are you better off than you were four years ago?)
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To: McGruff
That's a separate topic.

The question to you, McGruff, is -- do you really believe that, as the Russian federation foreign ministry wrote On September 17, 1939, the Red army launched a military operation in Poland's eastern regions, preventing the genocide of the population of Western Belarus and Western Ukraine

you really believe that?

12 posted on 09/23/2024 3:30:23 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: LukeL

At least the Germans have owned up to their actions. Cant say that for other countries like Japan and Russia


13 posted on 09/23/2024 3:41:03 AM PDT by iluvschnitzle (We should follow Ukraines example and resist the illegal invasion)
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To: LukeL

I agree with you. However, at least the Germans are being honest about it.

CC


14 posted on 09/23/2024 3:54:38 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: Cronos

Good thing you “elected” in front of President of Ukraine.

Otherwise we might think for ourselves and wonder if the AECU and Double-Cross System CIA members/Jew Soros/Fascist WEF/Nazi Schwab/Red Fascist Blackrock/US State Dept/US MIC “installed” their puppet.


15 posted on 09/23/2024 3:56:59 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Cronos

New heights of revisionist history.


16 posted on 09/23/2024 4:01:06 AM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: jacknhoo

jacknhoo “/Jew Soros/”

You really had to label Soros by that? Anti-semitic much?


17 posted on 09/23/2024 4:03:16 AM PDT by Cronos
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Russia/USSR has been invading countries to “protect” someone since, well....forever.

Just read Harvest Of Sorrow by the great Robert Conquest. The USSR didn’t just ruin the Ukrainian harvest in the 1930s.i
The USSR TOOK every possible morsel of food from the Ukraine in the 1930s.They TOOK all of the seeds to starve all of the Ukraine.

Also, there is an incredible movie Mr Jones. It is a very well made movie that tells the truth about Gareth Jones. Mt Jones believes the Soviet propaganda until he actually visits the Ukraine in the 1930s.


18 posted on 09/23/2024 4:07:53 AM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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To: Cronos

Jew Soros and Jew Zelensky, birds of a feather?


19 posted on 09/23/2024 4:13:22 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: jacknhoo

And you include Netanyahu in that list?


20 posted on 09/23/2024 4:15:19 AM PDT by Cronos
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