Posted on 09/18/2024 7:08:16 PM PDT by george76
Hillary Clinton has long been one of the most anti-free speech figures in American politics, including calling upon European officials to force Elon Musk to censor American citizens under the infamous Digital Services Act (DSA). She is now suggesting the arrest of Americans who spread what she considers disinformation. It is a crushingly ironic moment since it was her campaign that funded the infamous Steele dossier and spread false stories of Russian collusion during her presidential campaign. Presumably, that disinformation would not be treated as criminal viewpoints.
Speaking on MSNBC’s The Rachel Maddow Show this week, Clinton was asked about continued allegations of Russian efforts to disseminate Russian propaganda in the United States. Clinton responded:
“I think it’s important to indict the Russians, just as Muller indicted a lot of Russians who were engaged in direct election interference and boosting Trump back in 2016. But I also think there are Americans who are engaged in this kind of propaganda. And whether they should be civilly or even in some cases criminally charged is something that would be a better deterrence, because the Russians are unlikely, except in a very few cases, to ever stand trial in the United States.”
The interview was chillingly consistent with Clinton long antagonism toward free speech.
Clinton, of course, was not challenged by Maddow on the fact that her campaign was the conduit for disinformation linked to Russian intelligence services.
Not only did U.S. intelligence believe that the Clinton campaign was used to make the debunked claims, but it was clearly done for purely political purposes.
Clinton efforts were so obvious by July 2016 that former CIA Director John Brennan briefed former President Obama on Hillary Clinton’s alleged “plan” to tie then-candidate Donald Trump to Russia as “a means of distracting the public from her use of a private email server.” The Russian investigation was launched days after this briefing.
Her general counsel, Marc Elias, his former partner Michael Sussmann, and the campaign were later found involved in not just spreading the false claims from the Steele dossier but other false stories like the Alfa Bank conspiracy claim.
It was Elias who managed the legal budget for the campaign. We now know that the campaign hid the funding of the Steele dossier as a legal expense.
New York Times reporter Ken Vogel said that Elias denied involvement in the anti-Trump dossier. When Vogel tried to report the story, he said that Elias “pushed back vigorously, saying ‘You (or your sources) are wrong.’” Times reporter Maggie Haberman declared, “Folks involved in funding this lied about it, and with sanctimony, for a year.”
Elias was also seated next to John Podesta, Clinton’s campaign chairman, when he was asked about the role of the campaign, he denied categorically any contractual agreement with Fusion GPS. Even assuming that Podesta was kept in the dark, the Durham Report clearly shows that Elias knew and played an active role in pushing this effort.
The Clinton campaign lied to the media, spread false claims of Russian disinformation, and was accused of being a conduit for Russian intelligence. So would the “better deterrence” have been for Clinton herself to be arrested?
Sussmann ultimately did stand trial but was acquitted. Notably, John Durham noted that “no one at Fusion GPS … would agree to voluntarily speak with the Office” while both the DNC and Clinton campaign invoked privileges to refuse to answer certain questions.
For a person who is on her fourth memoir, Clinton is remarkably hostile to free speech. Notably, in all of these memoirs, she does not address her prominent role in calling for the censorship and now arrest of those with opposing views. She also does not discuss how her campaign lied to the media and funded the Steele dossier. Perhaps that is coming in the fifth memoir.
What is clear is that Clinton herself has no fear that such prosecution would ever await her. She is one of those who may silence others but not be silenced. The public is to be protected from views that she deemed disinformation, misinformation, or malinformation.
To that end, as one of the guardians of truth, Clinton chastised the media for not being more consistently anti-Trump, a daunting prospect since the media has been accused of running almost 90 percent negative stories on Trump.
Nevertheless, shortly after the second assassination attack on Trump, Clinton called Trump a danger to the world and added that “I don’t understand why it’s so difficult for the press to have a consistent narrative about how dangerous Trump is.”
Ideally, between the arrests of those accused of disinformation and an effective state media, Clinton hopes to rein in errant thoughts and viewpoints.
In the interview, Maddow did not have even a slight objection to the implications of arresting people with criminal viewpoints. Censorship and criminal prosecutions are such mainstream concepts that they are as unsurprising as a fourth Clinton memoir.
Please hang her, before she gets away on her broomstick. It’s her time of year.
Disinformation is a communist tactic; the word is translated from Russian. The USSR and its proxies developed techniques and carried out campaigns of inserting fake news into obscure publications. Large, famous publications could and would pick up the fake news and spread it far and wide. They were remarkably successful.
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“but I know someone who is a retired FEMA agent. She told me that FEMA camps could be built in a matter of weeks, to lock people up.”
No need to build camps. We already live in a prison nation. They will just come shake down your cell, take possession of everything you own, and throw you in the street with nothing.
Saw a court show where a fella was holding a Bible, and asking questions relating to the Bible and his rights- the cops standing around him got Infuriated, and tackled him to the ground, and kept screaming that he “wasn’t being compliant” and “creating a disturbance” in order to justify their overreaction. The judge also demanded that the fella be evaluated for problems. It was like when the bible was held up, the demons exploded in rage.
While,he was being a buthead, it was just curious how quickly the cops went into rage mode over the bible when he produced it- I’ve seen defendents screaming at the judge, screaming at victims etc, and talking over the judge, and court cops didn’t go into frenzy mode tackling them- and the judge just ruled,on the issue, and that was that.
The left is redefining words.
Any speech they don’t like can be called “misinformation’ or “racist” or “hate speech”. All the time trying to bypass the 1st amendment. The 1st amendment does not protect speech we agree with but speech we disagree and may even find offensive.
What Hillary (and her kind) are calling for is to allow the government to regulate what we can and can not say, censorship.
Google HOMOSEXUAL RELATIONS and the BIBLE (w/out quotes) and the top 3 results and the majority in the first page were liberal (the content of one was paywalled and another was not accessible). Below is a compilation of content-accessible sites. Conservative ones are on the right, with borders.
Ignored is my extensive examination and refutation of prohomosexual polemics, by the grace of God.
Other search engines I tried are overall the same.
She’s just barely pretending that the Dem electoral strategy at this point isn’t trying to encourage Trump’s “elimination,” as one Dem Representative put it.
One could give them the benefit of the doubt if one were extremely generous up to the time of Butler, but that they doubled down on their dehumanization campaign against Trump after the first attempt on his life and have now tripled down on the slander and hatemongering after the second attempt, it’s clear they are actively encouraging more attempts.
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The Democrats have a track record of putting people in camps!A not just the Japanese but Germans& Italians as well. I have met numerous people who are highschool graduates that were unaware of that fact. I have met folks who had never heard of the Holocaust! Speaks volumes about the quality of our school system.
She just wants to be the kill the black and brown babies czar. Just say no.
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