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Biden says ending ban on Ukraine's use of long-range weapons being worked out
REUTERS ^ | Sep 10, 2024

Posted on 09/10/2024 4:40:38 PM PDT by McGruff

U.S. President Joe Biden said on Tuesday that his administration was "working that out now" when asked if the U.S. would lift restrictions on Ukraine's use of long range weapons in its war against Russia.

The U.S. has been reluctant to supply or sanction the use of weapons that could strike targets deep inside in Russia for fear it would escalate the conflict.

Kyiv's other allies have been supplying weapons, but with restrictions on how and when they can be used inside Russia, out of concern such strikes could prompt retaliation that draws NATO countries into the war or provokes a nuclear conflict.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia; Ukraine; War
KEYWORDS: biden; bidensmentaldecline; incognitivebiden; natoimperialism; noauthority; ukraine; undeclaredwar; whatconstitution; worldwarthree; ww3; wwiii; zelenskyqs
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To: McGruff

To date, there have been three Russian red lines.

Ukraine in NATO was ignored and the result was the SMO.

The second red line was committing NATO units to the war.

The third is using these missiles deep inside Russia. That boob, David Cameron, was threatening this as was Macron last spring. The Russians made it crystal clear these missiles constituted a red line. The promised retaliatory attacks would not only take place in Ukraine but also on actual NATO territory. This could be escalation that puts us over the top.

“MOSCOW/LONDON, May 6 (Reuters) - Russia warned Britain on Monday that if British weapons were used by Ukraine to strike Russian territory then Moscow could hit back at British military installations and equipment both inside Ukraine and elsewhere.”


41 posted on 09/10/2024 5:35:57 PM PDT by hardspunned (Look for the“Putin Stooge” libel, news from Ukraine you’ve gradually grown to trust over 30 months )
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To: OldHarbor

This has nothing to do with Biden. It about Ukraine’s resistance to Russian subjugation. It is those who see a win for Russia as a defeat for the CIA and the NWO — the Ukrainian people be damned — who are making this a surrogate war.


42 posted on 09/10/2024 5:36:33 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Allegra

I hated finding food at the grocery store, if I could afford it (j/k).

Starving will finally get my weight down.

I give the local grocery stores 12-36 hours before they’re cleaned-out like COVID-19(84) once the next detonation goes off (in a war).

Iran would like to make that happen in Israel, too.


43 posted on 09/10/2024 5:36:47 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: af_vet_1981

Yes, Matthew 24:29-30 describes His Second Coming at the end of the 7 years of Tribulation. That will put an end to all war for 1,000 years. Then a short season where Satan is loosed again - then captured and Eternity begins (for the thread)

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.


44 posted on 09/10/2024 5:40:32 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: Westbrook

Yeah Putin should not have escalated by getting ballistic missles from Iran.


45 posted on 09/10/2024 5:40:38 PM PDT by iluvschnitzle (We should follow Ukraines example and resist the illegal invasion)
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To: Petrosius

“Since Yanukovich was removed by the democratically elected parliament after he fled Ukraine, and not by a CIA coup”

He escaped nazi militias that stormed the government building. The “vote” to remove his was overwatched by Right Sector and Azov, armed with AKs in the chamber.

You must be a foreigner or an immigrant.


46 posted on 09/10/2024 5:41:40 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: hardspunned
Ukraine in NATO was ignored and the result was the SMO.

Ukraine never joined NATO and Zelensky has already offered Ukrainian neutrality with no NATO membership. Putin rejected the offer.

The second red line was committing NATO units to the war.

There are no NATO units in Ukraine.

The promised retaliatory attacks would not only take place in Ukraine but also on actual NATO territory.

Russia can't defeat Ukraine so it is going to turn on all of NATO? I do not think so.

We should just hand over Ukraine because Russia says that it will get mad if we don't?

47 posted on 09/10/2024 5:42:13 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: hardspunned

“The third is using these missiles deep inside Russia.”

Really? We can throw missiles to all four corners of Ukraine but dont shoot them at us.

Russias “red lines” have proven to be as real as Obamas.


48 posted on 09/10/2024 5:43:07 PM PDT by iluvschnitzle (We should follow Ukraines example and resist the illegal invasion)
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To: DesertRhino
He escaped nazi militias

Yes, all the Ukrainians that objected to Yanukovich handing the country over to the Russians must be Nazis. After all, no one else in Ukraine would object to their country being subjugated by Russia.

49 posted on 09/10/2024 5:45:47 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: jpp113

Oh yeah, that one. Thanks!!


50 posted on 09/10/2024 5:47:02 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: iluvschnitzle

I’m not talking about red lines BIDEN set, “Oh no, we wouldn’t dare send F-16s, that would cause WWIII”.

The Russians have set three. Care to debate that? Show me the direct RUSSIAN quotes enunciating any other actual red lines.

Look, there are rip roaring idiots in the Pentagon, rainbow politician hack generals, who make the same uninformed mistake you are guilty of making. You should be proud of the company you keep.


51 posted on 09/10/2024 5:52:26 PM PDT by hardspunned (Look for the“Putin Stooge” libel, news from Ukraine you’ve gradually grown to trust over 30 months )
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To: hardspunned

“who make the same uninformed mistake you are guilty of making”

Please dont make Cronos list your mistakes again, it wastes bandwith.

I think your next mistake will occur on October 1st.


52 posted on 09/10/2024 5:58:14 PM PDT by iluvschnitzle (We should follow Ukraines example and resist the illegal invasion)
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To: Petrosius

Hey, you caught on. the CIA does not give a flying fuck how many Ukrainians die 😵‍💫

They never care about the locals ,ask Madeleine Albright about 50,000 Iraqi children.

It’s the Forever War Club my friend. Iraqi’s, Syrian’s , Afghanis , Vietnamese, Kosovo, Libya ,Panama the list goes on. All victims of the CIA and US State of Terror Dept.

Pump and Dump .Billions get pumped into the war and eventually the country gets dumped.

Massive amounts of money are changing hands, politicians, oligarchs, the ghouls are getting fabulously wealthy and as such will cheerlead that the Ukrainians fight to the last man.

As a side hustle they engage in sex and drug trafficking. Nothing new they have been doing it for decades.

Pedo Joe has nothing to do with it now directly, as he’s drooling on himself and they keep him doped up, he’s out of it, but he knew when the war started he was cogent enough.

George Washington’s Final Address is spot on. Washington warned not to get involved in European squabbles. Just as true today as when he said it.


53 posted on 09/10/2024 6:00:27 PM PDT by OldHarbor (strained statutory arguments, appeals to inconsistent history, reliance on out-of-c)
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To: McGruff
One fine day we are going to see an aircraft carrier sent to the bottom by the Houthis as payback for strikes into Russia.

Biden seems to have no idea he is playing on the two way rifle range.

54 posted on 09/10/2024 6:08:33 PM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: Petrosius

You really think people on FR are idiots, don’t you?


55 posted on 09/10/2024 6:18:56 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88

What a fine and logical argument!


56 posted on 09/10/2024 6:21:54 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius

you repeat the same nonsense comment constantly. Its simplistic, childish, has no bearing on reality, and is idiotic

it contributes nothing, except to turn FR into a cesspool of lowest-common-denominator nonsense.


57 posted on 09/10/2024 6:26:29 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Petrosius

And Ukraine could end nazism, stop their ethnic cleansing…
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Well documented since 2014. One visit to the cities of Ukraine shows statues to the Nazi Bandera , Bandera statues, street names, and other sickening Nazi symbols.

If the Azov Nazis had not been dispatched to the Russian Donbass and start shelling the cities, this war would have never started.

Nazis in the end get what they deserve, as do the Nazi sympathizers and enablers…as we are witnessing.


58 posted on 09/10/2024 6:29:40 PM PDT by delta7
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To: iluvschnitzle

Yeah Putin should not have escalated by getting ballistic missles from Iran.
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You are funny, It is okay for the collective West to send $$$$billions of weapons to Ukraine but forbidden for Vlad to do the same?

The arrogance of the declining West! Rules for thee, but not for me….so, so laughable.


59 posted on 09/10/2024 6:35:08 PM PDT by delta7
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To: Petrosius

This has nothing to do with Biden.
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Yeah right…….10 percent to the big guy, a known fact…on tape…do you even know what Burisma is? I didn’t think so.

You war cheerleaders really know how to pick your leaders! Disgraceful, corrupted, evil old man…


60 posted on 09/10/2024 6:38:18 PM PDT by delta7
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