Posted on 09/10/2024 5:15:19 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
In early 2024, the International Center for 9/11 Justice (IC911) embarked on the first stage of an in-depth study into what took place in the skies on September 11, 2001.
On September 8, 2024, IC911 and UK Column held an online symposium where we commemorated the 23rd anniversary of that day and shared IC911’s research to date. The symposium evaluated three key claims of the US government’s account:
That the alleged 9/11 hijackers could so smoothly and successfully commandeer all four airliners; That the alleged hijacker pilots could successfully fly three of the aircraft into their intended targets; That US air defenses failed to intercept the hijacked planes due to communication breakdowns and bad luck. IC911 Research Director Dr. Piers Robinson introduced the four-hour livestream event. Captain Dan Hanley, a pilot of 35 years and founder of 9/11 Pilot Whistleblowers, then spoke about the importance of getting the world to understand that Muslim terrorists did not fly the planes on 9/11. Following their remarks, there were four presentations.
Program Note: The livestream begins at the 4:50 mark.
Opening Remarks By Dr. Piers Robinson, IC911 Research Director 4:50 – 14:50
Informing the World There Were No Muslim Hijackers on 9/11 By Captain Dan Hanley, 9/11 Pilot Whistleblowers 14:50 – 28:40
The 9/11 Hijacking Myth Exposed: Examining the Official Story Against the History of Suicide Hijacking Attempts and the Content of the 9/11 Phone Calls By Ted Walter, IC911 Executive Director 28:40 – 1:52:30
Assessing the Feasibility of the 9/11 Flight Profiles for Inexperienced and Experienced Pilots By Olivier Caron-Mason, Pilot and Former Flight Instructor 1:52:30 – 2:49:30
The 9/11 Flights: The Case for GPS-Guided Autopilot Control By Aidan Monaghan, Researcher 2:49:30 – 3:19:50
Lies and Obstruction: Indefensible Air Defenses on 9/11 By Kevin Ryan, Editor of the Journal of 9/11 Studies 3:19:50 – 3:55:10
"In early 2024, the International Center for 9/11 Justice (IC911) embarked on the first stage of an in-depth study into what took place in the skies on September 11, 2001.
On September 8, 2024, IC911 and UK Column held an online symposium where we commemorated the 23rd anniversary of that day and shared IC911’s research to date. The symposium evaluated three key claims of the US government’s account:"
So who is Dr. Piers Robinson?
Who is “International Center for 9/11 Justice”
Who is “UK Column”
Dr. Piers Robinson runs a “Organisation for Propaganda Studies”
The board is listed as:
Directors
1 Professor Mark Crispin Miller (New York University)
2 Dr David Miller (Spinwatch)
3 Dr Piers Robinson (Organisation for Propaganda Studies)
4 International Advisory Board (Not all members are publicly listed)
5 Professor Jared Ball (academic)
6 Sharon Beder (academic)
7 Karl Evanzz (Journalist)
8 Professor Oliver Boyd-Barrett (academic)
9 Dr Sheila O’Donnell (independent researcher)
10 John Pilger (Journalist, film/documentary maker)
11 Dr Judith Richter (independent researcher)
https://propagandastudies.org/board-directors-advisors/
That the alleged 9/11 hijackers could so smoothly and successfully commandeer all four airliners;
Recall, if you will, that up to this time, aircrew were taught not to resist high-jackers. They were to cooperate to allow authorities to negotiate their release.
Dr. Piers Robinson online bio:
“Dr Piers Robinson is a political scientist and currently a co-director of the Organisation for Propaganda Studies, co-editor of Propaganda in Focus, and is Research Director and board member of the International Center for 9/11 Justice as well as co-editor of its flagship Journal of 9/11 Studies. He is also a member of Berlin Group21 and PANDA, convenor of the Working Group on Syria, Propaganda and Media, and associated researcher with the Working Group on Propaganda and the 9/11 Global ‘War on Terror’. He has served on the boards of several academic journals.
Research Director, International Center for 9/11 Justice, 2024 – present
Co-editor Journal of 9/11 Studies, 2024 – present
Board of Directors, International Center for 9/11 Justice, 2023 – present
Co-editor Propaganda in Focus. 2022 to present
Executive Committee, PANDA, 2022-2024
Co-Director Organisation for Propaganda Studies, 2018-present
Professor/Chair in Politics, Society and Political Journalism, University of Sheffield, 2016-2019
Visiting Professor, University of Chester, 2013-2016
Senior Lecturer in International Politics, University of Manchester, 2005-2015
Lecturer in Political Communication, University of Liverpool, 1999-2005
PhD Candidate and Teaching Assistant, University of Bristol, 1997-1999
He researches communication, media and world politics, focusing on conflict and war and especially the role of propaganda. His work has been cited in publications such as ‘The Responsibility to Protect’, published by the International Commission on Intervention and State Sovereignty (ICISS), and he has received many invitations to lecture and advise on these topics. He has lectured at the NATO Defense College in Rome and given presentations/briefings at the University of Oxford to UK senior military commanders and diplomats and also lectured at the St Cyer military academy in France. He has given public talks for Stop the War Coalition, Frome Stop the War and Media on Trial. Recently, in 2022, he was invited to present at the All Party Parliamentary Group (APPG) examining the COVID19 response and the role of propaganda and media.
He regularly provides commentary and analysis on propaganda and propaganda related matters and has appeared on both mainstream/corporate media and alternative/independent media.
His current research focuses on organised persuasive communication (OPC) and contemporary propaganda. The development and application of a conceptual framework, designed to examine deceptive and non-deceptive OPC, was originally applied to the case of the 2003 Iraq War and is now published. This research has been developed into a broader research agenda aimed at theorising and researching propaganda and he is currently working on a number of projects including propaganda during the current Syrian conflict (including working with Hans von Sponeck [former UN assistant secretary general], Jose Bustani [First Director General of the OPCW] and Professor Richard Falk with Berlin Group21), propaganda during the 9/11 ‘war on terror’ and propaganda during the COVID-19 event with PANDA. A current focus is with the relaunched International Center for 9/11 Justice.
Piers actively cultivates a number of researching publishing activities aimed at engaging both the academic community and the public with the issue of deceptive and coercive OPC and contemporary propaganda. These include the Organisation for Propaganda Studies , Propaganda in Focus, the International Center for 9/11 Justice, PANDA, Working Group on Syria, Propaganda and Media, and the Working Group on Propaganda and the 9/11 Global ‘War on Terror’.
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Its pointless...
One loon I know claimed it was thermite that brought the buildings down..
since when has thermite ever been used to bring down buildings?
Then I asked..how is it that the point of collapsed of the towers just happened to be at the impact point of the jets?
Never have gotten an answer. But they persist. It amazing the pride people have. Wont EVER admit to being wrong.
Take for instance another person I know. Siad a documentary she watched claimed Elivs is alive and she believed it. I said this documentary was fiction. IT was a “mocumentary” FAKE. I showed her the IMDB entry stating such. Still wont accept that she was wrong. AMAZING. The first conspiracy guy I mentioned then said my referring to IMDB is a “appeal to authority”... I then asked him who in authority told him the Bible is true and why do you accept that “appeal to authority”?
*Sigh*
I’ve grown old of these clowns... I was in lower Manhattan on 9/11 and saw both towers collapse. I had to walk from Battery Park to Brooklyn via the Manhattan Bridge, in the roadway, to get on a LIRR train to go home.
I took a quick look at the site and they’ve already lost me at “complex flight maneuvers” and “were they controlled by computers”. Boeing 757s and 767s have flight directors and autopilots. The planes are usually controlled by computers.
Not to make light of the issue but anyone with 1990s-level computer skills can operate a plane in flight using only the AP/FD, and that has been the norm for decades, certainly before 9/11. Once in the cockpit, there was nothing to stop the hijackers from programming a course that would take them directly into their target. While they could have flown the plane by hand, there was no need to. Whether they did or didn’t, the outcome was the same.
There were literally hundreds of videos shot in real time while the 9/11 attacks happened. Most of them have now been released on YouTube. The in-flight recordings between the four hijacked planes and air traffic control have been released and are on YouTube. Forensic videos have been released on YouTube showing exactly how the impacts of the planes that hit the World Trade Center towers damaged the buildings as they sliced in. There are recorded phone calls from passengers and flight crews on the planes and people in the buildings that day. These are eyewitness accounts from people who died in the attacks.
In other words, a massive amount of evidence exists showing exactly what happened on 9/11/01, but there are none so blind as those who WILL NOT see. Understanding cannot be forced on someone who chooses to be ignorant.
I've grown old of the thermite argument. It's usually from folks who've done a tiny bit of research to learn that Jet-A doesn't burn hot enough melt steel, which is true. Jet-A does burn hot enough to soften steel, which is all that you need when you have tons of pressure (from the upper floors) on top of it.
When you consider that the mastermind of 9/11, KSM, has a degree in Mechanical Engineering from North Carolina Agricultural and Technical State University, would have certainly known this, it's pretty clear that this was the plan all along - no explosives needed.
The key person seems to have made a profitable career out of 9/11.
Regarding the argument “fire not hot enough” : The fuel load was approximately 23,000 gal of burning jet fuel, spreading quickly across the floor of impact. Although it is true, the fire was not hot enough to melt steel, the speed at which the fire engulfed the entire floor, was well beyond any design scenarios. Witnessing the collapse of those towers real time on TV was shocking. I remember how odd the collapse looked, that it almost seemed to be a planned demolition. But once the collapse began, the final velocity of the fall was near 200 mph. There were no other forces to cause the building to other than vertical. The towers collapsed because fully fuelled airplanes delivered a huge molotov cocktail which caused structural failure of building never designed for this type of event.
Not to mention the plane that hit each tower weighed several thousand tons blowing out the external structures. The resulting fire weakened the external trusses holding up the concrete floors. It was just a matter of time before the structure collapsed under its own weight and gravity took over.
Exactly, first thing I said at the time.
Per passengers, it'd be easy enough for them to simply say that they were taking the plane to Cuba - which would not trigger a rush of self defense. Nothing to lose as a passenger if you know you've been drafted into a suicide mission.
Due to recordings, we know the cat got out of the bag on the PA flight. The others, no record that I know of.
It’s usually from folks who don’t understand basic science (laws of thermodynamics) and who believe everything they see on the internet.
“True pandemic.”
Full disclosure: I did give many alternate theories some study. The thermite/controlled demolition theory was as wacky as ‘zoom climb’...
Since this is a public forum, for those who need a bit of clarity: https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/51738/confused-about-fire
What do you know about “Vapor Cloud Explosions (VCE)”.
When the diesel atomized and then ignited, that was a VCE.
They are very destructive explosions.
The next key player is Mark Miller.
So why is he working for Steinhardt in NYU?
DEPARTMENT OF
Media, Culture, and Communication
239 Greene Street, 8th floor
New York, NY 10003
212-998-5191 |
Mark Crispin Miller
Professor of Media, Culture, and Communication
Media, Culture, and Communication
mark.miller@nyu.edu
998 5188
Research interests include: modern propaganda, history and tactics of advertising, American film, and media ownership. Books include Boxed In: The Culture of TV; Seeing Through Movies, ed.; Mad Scientists: The Secret History of Modern Propaganda; Spectacle: Operation Desert Storm and the Triumph of Illusion; and The Bush Dyslexicon. His newest book is Cruel and Unusual: Bush/Cheney’s New World Order.
Selected Publications
Boxed In: The Culture of TV
Mad Scientists: The Secret History of Modern Propaganda
The Bush Dyslexicon
Introduction to Mass Persuasion and Propaganda
This course presents a critical analysis of the development, principles, strategies, media, techniques, and effects of propaganda campaigns from ancient civilizations to modern technological society. The course focuses on propaganda in the context of government, religion, revolution, war, politics, and advertising, and explores implications for the future of propaganda in the cybernetic age.
Course # MCC-UE 1014 Credits 4
Department Media, Culture, and Communication
This line jumped out at me:
“That the alleged hijacker pilots could successfully fly three of the aircraft into their intended targets”
Three aircraft WERE flown into their intended targets or at least 2 were, if you want to leave the Pentagon out of it. The World Trade Towers WERE hit by aircraft. We’re past “alleged”. Hundreds of thousands of New Yorkers witnessed that event first hand, saw the planes hit the buildings and saw the planes imbedded in the buildings afterwards. And plane debris was part of the wreckage of the collapsed buildings.
The other word that stuck out at me was “intended” as if to suggest that the towers were not the intended target. At the very least, common sense indicates the towers were the target. Two 747’s weren’t just out for a joy ride in the skies of lower Manhattan when they accidentally hit the two towers.
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IIRC-—THE HIGHJACKERS were found to have ‘taken flying lessons ‘ here in the USA, but never wanted to learn HOW TO LAND THE PLANE
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