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Houston, You Have Another Problem? It looks more and more like China might beat NASA back to the moon.
PJ Media ^ | 09/05/2024 | Stephen Green

Posted on 09/05/2024 1:21:09 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

It looks more and more like China might beat NASA back to the moon.

If all goes according to the re-re-revised plan, Boeing's troubled Starliner space capsule will undock from the International Space Station on Friday afternoon and make an automated return to Earth, unmanned. Meanwhile, debate continues at NASA over how to proceed with the Artemis program to get us back to the moon — almost two full years after the Artemis I flight test returned safely to Earth but with the Orion capsule's heat shield showing unexpected wear and tear.

"This will be an even higher-profile decision for NASA," Eric Berger reported for Ars Technica on Wednesday, "with higher consequences—four astronauts will be on board, and hundreds of millions, if not billions, of people will be watching humanity's first deep space mission in more than five decades."

Here's the bullet point version of the debate:

* Artemis I returned safely. Had there been astronauts on board, they would have been in zero danger.

* Still, Orion's heat shield did not burn away as expected — a possible concern.

*Should manned Artemis II follow the same reentry profile, make a steeper reentry that will take less time, or be delayed while a new heat shield is designed, built, and tested?

NASA has given no indication of when a decision will be made or what it might be. Also of note: Orion is a Lockheed-Martin project, not Boeing.

Also tightlipped is Communist China about its lunar ambitions. But, like NASA, the Chinese Lunar Exploration Program (CLEP) aims to put Taikonauts on the lunar surface in the 2029-2030 timeframe. China's program has enjoyed nine successful missions to date, including a lunar orbiter, a rover, and even a lunar sample return to Earth. Phase 4 begins in 2026

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TOPICS: China; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ccp; china; elonmusk; moon; nasa; nope; spacex
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1 posted on 09/05/2024 1:21:09 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

It looks more and more like China might beat NASA back to the moon.
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Possibly but not if Elon Musk and SpaceX are allowed to “come to the rescue”.


2 posted on 09/05/2024 1:23:51 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX)
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To: SeekAndFind

I am not in the least bit concerned. When we do go back to the moon (soon) with SpaceX Starship, it will be for real, not a one-time visit like Communist China will do.


3 posted on 09/05/2024 1:23:59 PM PDT by rlmorel (J.D. Vance and The Legend of The MaMaw of The 19 Loaded Guns!)
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To: SeekAndFind

We were there 55 years ago with what is now considered antiquated technology. Six missions, 12 men. But it’s a problem now.

What am I missing?


4 posted on 09/05/2024 1:31:01 PM PDT by Thorium90
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To: SeekAndFind

China might reach the South Pole and climb Mt Everest, too. But they won’t be first.


5 posted on 09/05/2024 1:31:51 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: SeekAndFind

China’s never been there. How can they beat the US back there?

NASA is worthless.


6 posted on 09/05/2024 1:32:32 PM PDT by HYPOCRACY (Brandon's pronouns: Xi/Hur)
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To: SeekAndFind
They way they crank out crappy drywall, dog food, and auto parts, I imagine their space program will be something along the lines of this…..

IMG-1851

7 posted on 09/05/2024 1:42:12 PM PDT by dznutz
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To: Thorium90
What am I missing?

They've improved, repaired, made it more sustainable and enviro friendly and updated to the point it's almost useless. All with the help of AI and DEI personnel.

8 posted on 09/05/2024 1:43:41 PM PDT by BipolarBob (When life gives you oranges, make mimosas or screwdrivers.)
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To: SeekAndFind

And Chinky’s on the Moon!


9 posted on 09/05/2024 1:43:56 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Yeah but we're KICKING CHINA'S *SS in Diversity, Equity and Inclusion.

If NASA were SERIOUS about getting to the moon, they'd relinquish all contracts to Spacex. Otherwise, NASA is doing a FINE job of SABOTAGING any U.S. effort in going there.

10 posted on 09/05/2024 1:45:58 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Did little lord Fauci send NIH money to them to open up a virus factory there too?


11 posted on 09/05/2024 1:49:03 PM PDT by normbal (normbal. somewhere in socialist occupied America ‘tween MD and TN)
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To: SeekAndFind
D E I

12 posted on 09/05/2024 1:52:15 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: Thorium90

Many, many factors.

People were expected to do their jobs properly, handle pressure and still do them, and be responsible and personally accountable. With far weaker tech tools.


13 posted on 09/05/2024 1:52:37 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The most diverse crew ever will be incinerated on takeoff.


14 posted on 09/05/2024 2:04:44 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo ( )
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To: Thorium90

“What am I missing?”

maybe the fact that your Govt has never told you the truth.

but back then we all wanted to believe it was “a small step for man, a giant leap for mankind”

when in reality it was just a huge big lie.


15 posted on 09/05/2024 2:10:27 PM PDT by algore
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To: SeekAndFind

When they can change the orbit of an asteroid, I’ll be impressed, and if I were a Chinese cosmonaut I’d be concerned that it might just be a one-way trip.


16 posted on 09/05/2024 2:18:54 PM PDT by Omnivore-Dan
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To: House Atreides

Side note, when Ike Turner died, one death notice cracked wise with the headline ‘Ike Turner “Beats” Tina to Death’.


17 posted on 09/05/2024 2:23:36 PM PDT by desertsolitaire ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

First radio transmission to chairman Xi does the moon have red soil?.


18 posted on 09/05/2024 2:29:54 PM PDT by Vaduz
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To: SeekAndFind

NASA will get there first if it’s decided that the Moon’s pronouns need updating.


19 posted on 09/05/2024 2:34:16 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: algore
“a small step for man, a giant leap for mankind” when in reality it was just a huge big lie.

Nixon didn't deserve to be impeached for Watergate, but he deserved to be thrown out of office for staging six fake moon landings. It was a reckless and irresponsible decision in the height of the Cold War, something even the unscrupulous Lyndon Johnson couldn't bring himself to do.

20 posted on 09/05/2024 2:37:04 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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