Posted on 09/03/2024 6:53:00 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Define worthless.
Are history, literature, art, music, and philosophy worthless?
What about sociology, linguistics, psychology, economics, and library science?
Only colleges and banks should issue student loans. NO Government guaranties other than GI Bill. Then we will see a return to serious studies, with art and humanities left to the wealthy who bring cash.
The idea of a government guaranteeing a loan for a degree that offers no better income opportunity than a high school dropout is insane. Like financing a house for someone who has never held a job.
Years ago, there was a story about a guy who had gotten a Master’s degree in Puppetry and he was advocating for loan relief back then.
When my son wanted to become a pilot after a visit to the University of North Dakota, I told him I couldn’t allow him to go into debt for $160,000 for a $35,000 per year job. Neighbor of ours told him if he wanted to be a pilot, to join the military. He flew KC135s for the Air Force.
All they would have to do is apply the same rules that they use to go after commercial and private institutions. They won’t though because it would decimate the loan industry and higher education scam. Many of these courses of study will result in degrees that will be replaced by AI. Probably better to have your kid get a degree or trade that involves a human person ... nurse, doctor, electrician, auto tech, carpenter, plumber, etc.
IF anything, it's the universities that are culpable for this mess.
What about sociology, linguistics, psychology, economics, and library science?
No, they are most certainly not worthless. I hold degrees in history and library science and have taken courses in most of those other subjects, and I feel blessed for having done so. However, some of the "studies" fields--black studies, women's studies, etc.--I would question.
What about sociology, linguistics, psychology, economics, and library science?
Of course these disciplines are not worthless.
However, their worth should be determined by market value i.e. what a student is willing to pay for the degree based on what he can expect as an income. Not what the government will loan.
Biden is making poor people who cant afford college to pay rich kids, mostly women, for these silly degrees.
Worthless degrees to ME are degrees where once you obtain it, the only job you can get is as a professor teaching kids so that they can also get that degree.
A friend’s sister has a degree in 18th century French poetry. And the only job she can get with that degree is as a professor teaching 18th century French poetry.
My friend insists that my way of thinking is hastening society’s slide into idiocracy.
No, but you should not be going into debt to get those degrees.
What about sociology, linguistics, psychology, economics, and library science?
Linguistics is useful. Economics is kind of a maybe so, maybe no.
As for the rest, frankly no.
And once again not something you should be going into debt for.
Get a degree in something that will allow you to earn the income to pay back any loans you took out.
If you want to minor in something that will not earn you a cent that is up to you.
If, after you have acquired a marketable skill, you want to play around with subjects that caught your interest that is also up to you. Goodness know I did that for decades. Now I just read books on odd subjects that will not put a cent in my pocket because I like doing that. But I do not buy the books on credit.
When PARENTS have spent over 20 YEARS pampering their little darlings with PARTICIPATION TROPHIES-—WHAT “CAREERS” do they think will be attached to their future years???
The tree grows as it is bent.....
People with worthless degrees (gender studies, etc.) should sue the schools that sold them.
I’ve been saying for years colleges/universities should be forced to tell students what they can expect to earn with a degree in their major.
Most of the degrees you mention only pay if you are teaching or are able to get a position as a researcher.
What are their expected salaries?
I encourage everyone to forego a degree and go to trade school or junior college. I have three associates degrees and a cerfication which have served me well in my field. Worked while I went to school at night. No student loans.
Congress is a willing accomplice in this worthless degree scam to line the pockets of these “liberal higher education” institutions.
But they are not ultimately responsible, it is the parents and students who make the choice to get an ancient Egyptian lesbian art studies degree without doing any research to find out if any cash can be made off of it
Went to a graduation ceremony for a friend who kid graduated from a private school and couldn’t believe how many got an equestrian degree. At 30k plus a year
Might as well practice “ you want fries with that”, nevermind those jobs have gone to robots as well
I disagree, that is like saying you should sue ford and the bar when you tbone a car while drunk.
You made the choice to drink and drive. The made the choice to spend the money on degrees they should have known offer little possibilities of future income.
Stop going after these “degrees” and they will go away
I blame the parents and supposed students that pay for a worthless degree.
50% of college grads don’t work in a field that has anything to do with their degree.
1 in 4 higher education graduates are earning less than $32,000 — the median annual income for high school graduates.
Stupidity begins at home.
Why not tie degree cost to the salary the student will get when they graduate?
That would end useless degrees and there’s a ton of them
The saddest part about the way higher education has been destroyed is that we now decry the failure of college to prepare one for a job rather than college’s failure to prepare one for life.
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