Posted on 08/23/2024 2:02:55 PM PDT by nickcarraway
EU member state threatens to provide train tickets for refugees to travel directly to Brussels, sparking a massive outcry. A defiant minister of the country says ‘If Brussels wants migrants, they will get them.’
Hungary has escalated its argument with the European Union about the appropriate amount of migrants to welcome. The debate has been going on for a while. Hungary would transfer migrants to Brussels, according to a minister of Viktor Orban’s, if the EU keeps pressuring Budapest to take in more asylum seekers.
‘If Brussels wants more migrants, they can have them’
At a news conference on Thursday, August 23, Gergely Gulyás remained uncompromising, telling reporters that ‘Brussels wants to force us to let migrants in at all costs. After the asylum procedure, we will take all migrants at the Hungarian border giving them the opportunity to be transported to Brussels voluntarily and free of charge,’ he said in response to Brussels’ demand. He continued by telling reporters that if Brussels wanted more migrants, he would send them to the European Parliament with a one-way train ticket so they could directly negotiate the terms of their care with the Commission.
Hungary is taking retaliatory action after Budapest was fined €200 million by the EU’s highest court in June for persistently violating refugee regulations. Additionally, Hungary was mandated to pay an extra €1 million for every day that it disobeys the court’s decision. Hungary, though, has resisted giving in. Mr. Orban called the court’s ruling ‘outrageous and unacceptable’ at the time. ‘Illegal migrants are more important to the Brussels bureaucrats than their own European citizens,’ he said.
The beauty of centralized government.
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Hungary can voluntarily leave the EU also… And tell the EU to go F themselves.
Brussels...Marta’s Vineyard....I love it!
I wouldn't blame Hungary.
You could say the same for any nation that joined the UN -- or any international organization -- including the U.S. and Israel. But I don't think you would say that the U.S. or Israel has willingly given up any sovereignty.
I think that now polls show in the U.K. more people are against Brexit than for it.
> Hungary voluntarily joined the EU … <
Well, yes. The EU was supposed to be simply a free trade zone. Declining to join would mean economic hardships for your people.
Unfortunately, the EU has morphed into an all-powerful Reich. The EU now even has regulations as to what kind of tea pots are permissible for sale!
Hungary could leave. Then it’s back to those economic hardships. So EU countries like Hungary that value their sovereignty are stuck between a rock and a hard place.
My sad prediction (sad because my grandparents were born there): In the long run, Hungary will lose and the EU will win.
Also Europe was still somewhat European then.
Remember when it was just the European Common Market?
Re harder to get out:
Just stop obeying and stop complying.
“Will not comply”.
And they have a military to back it up.
Wrong. There was no morphing. Go back to the 90’s. Germany and France ignored votes. They decided what kinds of zucchini you could plant. It was always highly authoritarian. And it was widely known.
> Remember when it was just the European Common Market? <
Ah, yes. I remember that term. And before my time it was just some kind of coal trading agreement. And that’s the problem with any central authority. They are driven to gather more and more power to itself. Big Brother knows best.
We of course see that here in the United States. The Founders envisioned a federal government with very limited powers. But now if I want to buy a revolver I first have to get DC’s permission.
At least I can buy any tea pot I want in the United States (for now, anyway). But not in the EU. Tea pots are regulated.
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> Wrong. There was no morphing. Go back to the 90’s. <
It actually depends on how far you want to go back. Please see my post #12.
But yes, nick. You certainly have a point. Hungary joined in 2003. The EU was already a monster by then. Still I can’t blame Hungary much. Join, and there are economic benefits. Stay out, and you will be quietly punished for your independent streak.
You’re really in a no-win situation if you care about your nation and its people.
> Germany and France ignored [EU] votes. <
Nick, it’s of value to point that out. But I suspect that Germany and France got away with that only because they are the big boys on the block.
Like most entrenched bureaucrats, the EU bureaucrats are bullies. And bullies only pick on the weak.
Eastern Europe shed the chains and political slavery of the Soviet Union and Communism to turn around and commit societal suicide once free. It’s bizarre.
—”Hungary can voluntarily leave the EU also… “
And yet they keep hanging around for all the ‘free stuff’.
Hungary is legally allowed to leave the EU according to Article 50 of the Treaty on European Union...
However, withdrawal from the EU is not popular among the Hungarian public. A 2016 poll revealed that 68% of Hungarians wanted to remain in the EU, while only 17% preferred to leave. In 2020, support for the EU was even higher, with 85% of polled Hungarians supporting the country’s membership in the union.
Hungary is looking better every day. I would emigrate there in a heartbeat. Western Europe is dying.
The totalitarian and Islamic EU needs to die a painful death.
I agree, but too few people do.
But I suspect that Germany and France got away with that only because they are the big boys on the block.
Yes, no doubt, even to their own people.
France spent many wars trying to avoid being controlled by Germans, then they voluntarily submitted to it. Because, clearly Germany is in control.
And voters in Greece, Ireland, Portugal, etc. didn't have any problem staying in the EU, even after Germany made it clear they were the parents, and those countries are the wayward children, and we can punish you as we see fit, as long as you live under our roof.
I mean Greece just went back and asked for another bowl of porridge.
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