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It may be possible to stop Democrats from creating post-election votes for Kamala
American Thinker ^ | 08/23/2024 | Andrea Widburg

Posted on 08/23/2024 7:32:06 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

One of the things that deeply worries those who are planning to vote for Donald Trump is the possibility of election fraud. The fraud that worries them most is that corrupt precincts will wait to see how the wind blows before finalizing their vote counts. If the honest vote count shows that Kamala Harris won their state, they’ll call it. However, if an honest vote count shows that Donald Trump won, they’ll start manufacturing votes. There may be a simple answer to this problem. Read on to learn.

None of us can forget how, on election night, heavily Democrat precincts in the six swing states shut down for several hours after it appeared Trump was winning. When they re-opened, Joe Biden had magically taken the lead.

Image: Vote counting in Detroit, November 2020. X screen grab.

Democrats assured us that this was because they were finally getting to all the mail-in and drop-boxed ballots, which leaned Democrat. Trump supporters had their doubts. They also had doubts when the votes were still being counted for days after the election, again ostensibly because of those magical mail-in ballots.

After seeing that voter rolls are riddled with non-existent voters—dead people, relocated people, illegal aliens, etc.—they concluded that what actually happened was that the Democrats manufactured ballots after the fact to push Biden over the top.

Little has been done since 2020 to address these concerns. The courts were useless. They were afraid to touch the substantive claims and relentlessly dismissed election fraud lawsuits on procedural grounds.

Under Ronna McDaniel’s aegis, the Republican National Committee, which should have been all over this like white on rice, was inert.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2024; electionfraud; voterfraud
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To: struggle

Yes, and the only reason we had President Trump and not president Hillary, was because they believed their polls and did not anticipate the number of fraudulent votes they’d need to manufacture especially in Wisconsin. Unfortunately by 2020 they learned their lesson and perfected the art of the steal. Much more sophisticated than their 1960 Mayor Daley Chicago / Illinois steal.


21 posted on 08/23/2024 8:10:58 AM PDT by DrHFrog
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Georgia and Arizona are two relatively red states that can’t apparently count votes

Arizona had less than two million votes in 2022 and it took them several days to count the votes, California the land of Silicon Valley takes weeks to count all the votes


22 posted on 08/23/2024 8:11:54 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: SeekAndFind

It may be possible to stop Democrats from creating post-election votes for Kamala


It also may be possible that Leprechauns will hand out gold coins to one and all.


23 posted on 08/23/2024 8:17:53 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: SeekAndFind

“No precincts should release vote counts until every vote is counted across the state.”

Bingo. I’ve been saying that for years.

Even in states with mandatory deadlines, the Republican counties cannot be prosecuted for withholding the counts if the Democrat counties are not also prosecuted for withholding the counts, so screw ‘em. Wait until all the blue counties report first.


24 posted on 08/23/2024 8:25:47 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: srmanuel

If America could do that (have the votes counted and reported by midnight) for 200 years, why can’t it do it now?

On another topic, if America could fly men to the moon and back 50 years ago why are we having trouble even getting to and from the ISS now?

And some wonder why ‘Make America Great Again’ resonates with so many.


25 posted on 08/23/2024 8:26:29 AM PDT by hanamizu ( )
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To: Leaning Right

“My best guess is that they secretly wanted Trump to lose.”

Yes, except it wasn’t really a secret.


26 posted on 08/23/2024 8:29:16 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: SeekAndFind

They can always find a few thousand uncounted ballots in the trunk of somebody’s Buick.


27 posted on 08/23/2024 8:31:29 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I'll go one better. No vote counts should be released at all, nation wide, until all precincts have shut down and all votes are counted. The reason is simple, many voters in CA, OR and WA do not vote once they see how the rest of the nation is going. If no one, in say, CA know how NY has voted, they'll be more inclined to get out and vote.

Also, someone in another thread suggested that, in every state, all counties get one vote, of course, reflecting who won the popular vote in that county. Once all the county votes have been tabulated, then the majority vote goes to the winner. That way, there is no way in BLEEP that a democratic candidate would ever win.

28 posted on 08/23/2024 8:34:16 AM PDT by ducttape45 (Jeremiah 17:9, "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?")
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To: SeekAndFind
However, if the Republican precinct sits on its final vote count until every precinct is ready to disclose results, that cheating is impossible.

Aren’t there pollwatchers from both parties who would be privy to the preliminary results? And wouldn’t the Democrat pollwatchers in the Republican precinct report those preliminary results back to headquarters?

29 posted on 08/23/2024 8:42:55 AM PDT by Alvin Diogenes
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To: All

Pennsylvania’s Absentee and VBM procedure is that the ballot must arrive at the counting place by 8 PM election day evening.

The boxes of those are opened and the process of checking address for that county begins. The numbers of these will be high, and they should be VERY high because all GOP and Independents should vote this way.

Numbers from precincts in person voting can be ignored by zipcode if that zipcode is a known GOP zipcode. For Independents there are no zipcodes that could inform cheating to ignore.

So there are lazy Dems and lazy GOP voters. There is NO REASON to allow the Dems to capture the votes of their lazy while the GOP does not capture their own lazy numbers.

So VBM or absentee should be GOP policy. It’s about numbers. It’s not about anything else.


30 posted on 08/23/2024 8:46:22 AM PDT by Owen
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To: hanamizu

I expected NASA to have men landed on Mars by now considering the moon landings were 55 years ago, now as you say we can’t even get astronauts to/from the ISS without having problems, meanwhile a private company is launching something about every other day and has built a worldwide space based internet service while landing the rockets back on land


31 posted on 08/23/2024 8:52:02 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: srmanuel

Florida has 10 million bigger population than Pennsylvania, yet it took Pennsylvania 5 more days to tally the ballots AFTER election day.

The biggest difference between Pennsylvania and Florida is that PA has to deal with the dysfunctional, corrupt, welfare inhabitants of Philadelphia.

If you would get rid of the Kensington district of Philadelphia, Republicans would win every state wide election, forever.


32 posted on 08/23/2024 9:03:17 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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To: SeekAndFind

i hate to rub this in but

IneligibleHarris is viewed by most voters including lifelong D voters as a disgusting insult, and an offensive one at that

she couldn’t win a race for local dog catcher but for the DNC ETM (Election Theft Machine)

BUT she WILL become our next POTUS. Because of just that Election Theft Machine. It reportedly remains in full force and effect in all the states that are needed to install anybody or anything in the White House. The DNC’s ETM has proven its potency. It could “elect” Jack The Ripper as President of the National Organization for Women. Easily.
It “elected” IneligibleObama (or whatever his real name is), twice. It faked thousands and thousands of “votes” in the middle of the night in at least 6 key states in 2020. And the key point is, the GOP has done almost nothing in most of the states to get rid of this huge fraud that’s rotted out our electoral system. Nothing.


33 posted on 08/23/2024 9:03:30 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: SeekAndFind

Do yourselves a favor and go watch Rosanne Barr and Jovan Pulitzer discussing the elections. How they stole the elections, it was not the machines. The episode dropped 8-22-2024.. The amount of information Jovan can relay just off the top of his head, is amazing.


34 posted on 08/23/2024 9:05:35 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: HombreSecreto

Tally votes by county. Whoever wins the most counties in the state gets the electoral votes. This way cheating could be caught at the county level.


35 posted on 08/23/2024 9:35:34 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (If it's Boeing, I ain't going)
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To: SeekAndFind

In reflection, there’s two points that I believe are incontrovertible.

1. It was a statistical miracle, not just once, but only in SWING States. Odds are basically zero that could happen. The various excuses to ‘pause counting’ and upon ‘resuming’ the vote count had totally changed. This alone is enough to know what happened.

2. The effort to block anyone trying to question it. The irregularities were enough to justify the cry to question it. The response SHOULD have been to look hard, transparently, to reassure their fellow American’s that everything was on the up and up. But no, the opposite was done. Every single effort was quashed.

This is the opposite of what transparent elections should look like.


36 posted on 08/23/2024 9:56:59 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

Wanna stop this crap? Voter ID and walk in voting. Anyone committing voter fraud should be sent to solitary confinement for a month.


37 posted on 08/23/2024 10:16:38 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: SeekAndFind; All
Thank you for referencing that article SeekAndFind.

"It may be possible to stop Democrats from creating post-election votes for Kamala"


I'm going to pick on California to make the following point about how easy it should be to count a given state's electoral votes since California seems to have the most electoral votes of any state.

First consider that the states have never expressly constitutionally given ordinary qualified citizen voters the specific power to vote for POTUS, our power to vote for president arguably a smoke and mirrors abuse of state powers under the boots of corrupt political parties.

In fact, constitutional electoral vote rules indicate that each state has a number of electors equal to a state's total number of federal representatives in Congress, 54(?) in California's case, not the deceptive millions of votes that we see every presidential election year.

"Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 (2.1.2): Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress [emphasis added]: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector."

H O W E V E R ...

Most constitutionally low-information voters unsurprisingly don't seem to understand that all that our politically correct votes for president ultimately amount to is a voice to complain about the price of postage stamps, one of the very few powers that the states have actually given the feds to dictate peacetime domestic policy.

In other words, most federal peacetime domestic policy is now based on stolen state powers.

Another reason that popular vote for president doesn't pass the constitutional smell test is this. Note that 12th Amendment electoral vote rules indicate that ALL of a given state's presidential electors are supposed to meet together to vote which cannot be done with millions of voters.

"The Electors shall meet in their respective states [emphasis added], and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice- President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;--The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;--The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; ..."

The reason that I used California's electoral votes as the example to explain major constitutional problems with the popular vote for POTUS is this. In stark contrast to states who can't seem to comply with 12th Amendment to decide electoral votes on election day, I'm pretty sure that I would be able to single-handedly count California's 54 (108 write-in ballots) electoral votes easily in an hour, including double-checking my count.

The bottom line is that we're being frauded by the corrupt, constitutionally undefined political parties that have pirated control of state and federal government folks.

The reason that nothing has been done about it until Trump got involved in politics is that, as a consequence of growing up with corrupt state and federal governments, we've been inadvertently indoctrinated to think that the confusion (read media propaganda) that we witness every president election year must somehow be constitutional.

In other words, our votes for president is a political deception to give us deplorables the constitutionally indefensible euphoria that we are in control of the Oval Office.

Finally, let's not allow the anti-Trump media try to fade our memories of what we witnessed on July 13.


38 posted on 08/23/2024 10:29:52 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: SeekAndFind

BKMK


39 posted on 08/23/2024 2:30:10 PM PDT by lizma2
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To: SeekAndFind
Most states won't have this issue.

So it appears they may cheat in MI, PA, WI.

So we need to pressure the battleground states to declare a winner in 24 hours.

If it takes longer than that, it's obvious that's we are seeing fraud.

40 posted on 08/23/2024 2:35:39 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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