Posted on 08/22/2024 2:25:59 PM PDT by Heartlander
Bkmk- Elon has entered the chat
Thanks to nearly a century and a half of gradual accumulation, these agencies have a permanent life. The employees cannot be fired except for egregious actions. And the elected president has no control over them.
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This is not true. A GOOD President can VETO the entire budget except Defense. At that point maximum PRESSURE is dialed up. NOBODY will be able to cash a check even if they get one. That day will come one way or another no matter what is done or not done.
Once the fire is red hot under everybody’s ass in Congress and out of Congress, let the negotiations begin. “Starting” with these 5:
1. pay cut’s to compensation levels in private industry
2. Hundreds upon Hundreds of Agencies closed for good.
3. Everybody is fired every 8 years and rehired based on merit.
4. Public employee unions and civil service abolished.
5. DEI is abolished
The key is can Congress muster 2/3 vote to over-ride. Trump may be in that position. If so, he will have chance to SAVE the United States of American from 65 years of corruption.
“Most employees would bail in a hurry.”
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Prolly right but many of them would choose to hang on as they can live like kings outside of DC on their more than generous salaries and benefits. Those who simply cannot tolerate the idea of living in Flyover Land will have to face the harsh reality of having to actually produce and compete in the workplace. That bit of reality is a very frightening prospect for most feds.
Nothing? We got us an Election to win and a lot of new voters to get on the rolls, Put Your Backs into it!
I would bet 95% or more of these “employees” vote dem.
“there is a strange lack of curiosity about what they really do and how they do it”
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the ‘civil servants’ workforce is supplemented by an army of contractors who do a lot of the serious work that feds do not want to do, or simply cannot do. Most of this shadow workforce goes largely unnoticed by the public.
Cut their budgets and RIF them! RIFs have been successfully used before - last in first out. Also the FBI the single biggest change needed there is the ending of their ability to do a “process crime” on their interviews. How it should be is if an interview occurs a copy of the recording and all notes are given to the interviewee. Also it most be clear and documented by both parties that the interview is official and not a chat! Any post interview notes are discoverable ( They currently aren’t!) Failure to do so means the interview did not occur all material, information etc is then inadmissible. The fact they held on the interview information is how they trapped Flynn.
Denver is crazy expensive, liberal-centric and military centric
How about expanding the Fresno, CA IRS office? Cheaper living compared to the bay area, and the rural inland could use some jobs. Or even Carson City, NV, also largely rural and the population is ageing out.
Back in the 70s I did an internship at the usda. It was fairly bad back then. Our office publish monthly commodity prices and as such it needed to be on time. When I got there it was done ‘by hand’ and took several hours. To me, it made no sense. So I cranked out a quick script to automate most of the job. I got in loads of trouble for that. Then there was the office of 6 next to mine. On day 1 the first guy got a stack of applications which he read thru and checked. On day 2 he got a new stack and passed off his checked stack to the next person who rechecked them…..and so on until the original stack had been checked 6 times. They used to joke about wearing the forms out. I could go on & on. You get the pic tho. I can only imagine it’s gotten worse in the intervening years.
“So long as I can remember, every Republican president has promised to get rid of the Department of Education. Great. But why does it never happen?”
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The Repukes can’t even manage to defund NPR/PBS. There is little to no chance they will ever eliminate any useless or redundant agencies.
Don’t forget that all those employees suck on the Federal tit and repay it with their votes, mostly Democrat. Creating and expanding Federal bureaucracies has been a primary Democrat vote-insurance project for decades.
Descriptions like this always make me laugh! To determine whether the salary is appropriate, you have to answer a question: "What does the 'average employee' do?" And there is no real answer, because the federal government employs neurosurgeons AND janitors. A few years back, when I actually looked into the federal salary issue, I discovered that many of the higher paid feds (surgeons, engineers, etc) were actually earning less than they would have in the private sector, while the lower paid feds (janitors, secretaries, etc.) were paid more than the private sector (but only a fraction of the $100k figure quoted here).
Anyone actually wanting to get federal spending under control is wasting their time, arguing about salaries. We should be cutting entire departments - shut down Education, Interior, etc., etc., etc, and terminate 100% of their employees. Let the States handle whatever real work they might have been doing, and any of the former feds that want to work can apply for a State job...
Democrap institutions is all they are now.
You don’t pay for any of their salaries or benefits, you pay interest on the loans that finance their salaries and benefits. It was the ability to spend deficits in peacetime that enabled the government to grow so far past their revenues.
Read The Declaration and you will know it applies now more than when it was written. The federal government is out of control, existing only to perpetuate itself.
“The rest have been legislated into existence by Congress, going far beyond anything the Founders ever imagined.“
Not really. When the founders imaginations got into gear they added the second amendment. It was all they could do, really…
Indeed. DC and its VA and MD adjacent environs are immune to the effects bad government policy has on the economy. Construction/improvement is always under way everywhere, commerce is booming, government employees who form the core of its population are oblivious.
It has degenerated into a “us” against “them” attitude and they fight tooth and nail to maintain the status quo - even helping the evil parts of government (i.e., Democrat control) commit completely and horrible acts against Americans.
Trump has talked about it. The federal government is the universe's largest monopoly, and the 600,000 or so denizens of its headquarters, Washington, D.C. -- a city the size of Mission Viejo, California -- purport to manage a nation of 333,000,000 people.
Start fixing it by eliminating all federal agencies created during the late-'60s and early '70s mainly to placate rioting hippies. That ship sailed long ago.
Then, after more pruning, quarter the remaining agencies in logical locations. Move Commerce to New York, Interior to Denver, Agriculture to Omaha, Energy to Dallas, etc. Enrich the economies of those cities and states nearest to their function, instead of trying to "govern" them at massive expense from hundreds and thousands of miles away.
You forgot Department of Education which should cease to exist, but if it stays….Fairbanks, Alaska?
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