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France expels 'radical' Tunisian imam Mahjoub Mahjoubi over flag comments
BBC ^ | 23rd February 2024 | Lou Newton

Posted on 08/17/2024 10:17:10 PM PDT by Cronos

France has expelled a "radical" imam who made "unacceptable remarks" about the country's flag, Interior Minister Gérald Darmanin has said.

Mahjoub Mahjoubi appeared to call the French flag "satanic" in a video that went viral online earlier this week.

Mahjoub Mahjoubi, who hails from Tunisia but came to France 38 years ago, was an imam at the Ettaouba mosque in the small town of Bagnols-sur-Cèze, in the south of France. He was arrested earlier this week after a video circulated online showing him describing a "tricolour flag" as "satanic" and saying it has "no value with Allah".

The imam said later he was sorry if he had caused any offence, arguing that his remarks about the flag were a "slip of the tongue". On Thursday, Mr Darmanin wrote on X that he had asked for an expulsion order to be issued for Mahjoub Mahjoubi, and praised tough new immigration laws that makes it easier for France to deport foreign residents. "Without the immigration law, this would not have been possible. Firmness is the rule", the interior minister wrote. French media published some of the expulsion order, which said the imam had promoted a "retrograde, intolerant, and violent image of Islam, likely to encourage behaviour contrary to the values of the Republic". It said his teachings encouraged discrimination against women, "tensions with the Jewish community" and "jihadist radicalisation". According to the order, he had also referred to Jewish people as "the enemy". He was expelled "less than 12 hours after his arrest", Mr Darmanin said in another post, adding that the new laws "makes France stronger".

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; France; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arabimmigrants; islamofascism

1 posted on 08/17/2024 10:17:10 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

The horror


2 posted on 08/17/2024 10:18:10 PM PDT by wardaddy (Thank you God for saving president Trump from murder)
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To: Cronos

Zero fks given. FAFO. France Around Find Out.


3 posted on 08/17/2024 10:36:16 PM PDT by know.your.why
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To: Cronos

The double name thing is sort of like the poet William Carlos Williams.

One of his good lines:
“It is difficult
to get the news from poems
yet men die miserably every day
for lack
of what is found there.”
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Also like Steve Stevens, the (mostly) rhythm guitarist for Bill Joel on Rebel Yell and White Wedding and others. I place him slightly below Pete Townshend and Keith Richards.


4 posted on 08/17/2024 10:41:03 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: Cronos

Take your pick:

A. France is finally cracking down on the Islamists. Vive la France!

B. French Muslims will be a bit more careful about what they say in the future. But the takeover will continue as planned.

So, yeah. I’m going with “B”.


5 posted on 08/17/2024 10:51:45 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Cronos

The BBC obviously doesn’t understand irony.


6 posted on 08/17/2024 10:59:21 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals)
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To: frank ballenger

Billy Joel? Lol, I think you were referring to Billy Idol.


7 posted on 08/17/2024 11:16:09 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!s)
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To: Cronos

Even France has a red line of the tolerance to hearing their country slandered , beyond that,they might say “feme le bouche!” (Shut your mouth!)


8 posted on 08/17/2024 11:21:46 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: Night Hides Not

Yipes. Billy Idol. Sorry about that.

Thanks for getting me back on track.


9 posted on 08/17/2024 11:23:45 PM PDT by frank ballenger (Therhttps:e's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: frank ballenger
“It is difficult

to get the news from poems

yet men die miserably every day

for lack

of what is found there.”

Why "yet?" Shouldn't it be "thus?" Does it not follow that men die due to the lack of news in poems?

Anyway, I'm a Ford Madox Ford man, myself.

Regards,

10 posted on 08/17/2024 11:59:50 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek; frank ballenger
See Empson's Seven types of Ambiguity

Yet has many connotations.

11 posted on 08/18/2024 2:02:22 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: Winniesboy
See Empson's Seven types of Ambiguity

Yet has many connotations.

Thanks!

Have just perused the Wikipedia entry on Empson's Seven types of Ambiguity. Also consulted the entry on "yet" in my Webster's Third New International Dictionary (unabridged).

According to my reading, the word "yet" can never be used to imply that one thing (necessarily) follows from another - quite the contrary.

So I guess that William Carlos Williams can only have been using it sarcastically.

Regards,

12 posted on 08/18/2024 3:36:28 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Cronos

In order to take over a country and establish a Caliphate the Muslims first must destroy faith in the present Government ... kinda like the pro-Palestinian protests in the US and all over the world are attempting.


13 posted on 08/18/2024 6:20:13 AM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: alexander_busek
'Yet'

The original OED (early 20th century) has as definition III.9:

Introducing an additional fact or circumstance which is adverse to, or the contrary of what would naturally expected from, that just mentioned. In spite of that, for all that, nevertheless, notwithstanding...

but then definition I.1 is

In addition or in continuation; besides,also; further, furthermore, moreover...

I read the ambiguity as suggesting that, although 'difficult', men could learn from poems many things that might lessen the probability that current events might lead to miserable death.

14 posted on 08/18/2024 6:26:34 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: Cronos

Who the f*** is Allah?


15 posted on 08/18/2024 7:51:42 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: alexander_busek

You know, I forgot that controversies about poetry are some of the most chaotic and dangerous ones on this site. I’m putting on my hard hat and racing for a safe space.

The first and last name entry Ford Madox Ford was excellent, though.


16 posted on 08/18/2024 10:08:53 AM PDT by frank ballenger (Therhttps:e's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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