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To: wildcard_redneck
"Take away their ability to earn money and remove them from all welfare programs and they will self report."

Draconian fines for employers knowingly using illegals for cheap labor. Make it toxic for any business to not thoroughly validate the status of any employee, or employees of subcontractors. Cut off welfare and public assistance for anybody not here legally and remove the incentives for being here.

11 posted on 08/11/2024 10:25:39 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: Joe 6-pack

THE FINES ALREADY EXIST===$5,000 per person per day.

NO ENFORCEMENT

GATHER HUNDREDS UP AT WESTERN UNION EVERY DAY...START THERE.


22 posted on 08/11/2024 10:34:51 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: Joe 6-pack

It’s the feds job to see that people are here legally, not 8 zillion employers. If you asked retailers to verify citizenship to make purchases, that would be effective, too, but again imposes a burden unnecessarily.


42 posted on 08/11/2024 11:20:54 AM PDT by Tymesup
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To: Joe 6-pack
"Draconian fines for employers knowingly using illegals for cheap labor. Make it toxic for any business to not thoroughly validate the status of any employee, or employees of subcontractors. Cut off welfare and public assistance for anybody not here legally and remove the incentives for being here."

I remember back in the 90's when I owned 3 small companies, I was required to fill out a Fedgov form (can't remember the number) regarding the hiring of any employee, no matter their race or ethnicity. That alone caused a large self-deportation in many Towns, Counties, and States. It was a successful policy.

As for public assistance, that has always driven me crazy. What right do illegals have to receive benefits from my tax dollars for their basic welfare? I've always been of mind, get a job or go home! Actually, just go home and leave the jobs to American legals.

55 posted on 08/11/2024 12:53:18 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021? )
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To: Joe 6-pack
Draconian fines for employers knowingly using illegals for cheap labor.

Draconian fines for government bureaucrats knowingly giving benefits of any sort to illegal aliens.

72 posted on 08/11/2024 3:41:01 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Joe 6-pack; wildcard_redneck

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“Take away their ability to earn money and remove them from all welfare programs and they will self report.”
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Draconian fines for employers knowingly using illegals for cheap labor. Make it toxic for any business to not thoroughly validate the status of any employee, or employees of subcontractors. Cut off welfare and public assistance for anybody not here legally and remove the incentives for being here
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Ah, yes, make BIZ do yet ANOTHER govt job it fails to do itself. *facepalm*

Nope, you start prosecuting/enprisoning the GOVT employees that aide/abet/collude/conspire+.


76 posted on 08/12/2024 4:52:23 AM PDT by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: Joe 6-pack
Draconian fines for employers knowingly using illegals for cheap labor. Make it toxic for any business to not thoroughly validate the status of any employee, or employees of subcontractors. Cut off welfare and public assistance for anybody not here legally and remove the incentives for being here.

That's a good idea, but it's not enough. Biden/Harris have been giving out work permits to all the millions of Central Americans who show up at the border. When they show up at the border, they are given "asylum seeker" status, a notice to appear before an immigration judge in a decade or so, loads of freebie stuff, and after 150 days they can get "temporary" work permits. A lot of the freebies are state run programs (usually with federal dollars) so it will be difficult for a new president to shut those down without congressional action. We need Trump to appoint thousands of immigration judges and establish clear rules that require substantive and substantial evidence of actual asylum needs, not just vague claims, and clear backlog of cases that have purposely been created to keep them in the country until they are so embedded they are even more difficult to remove.

81 posted on 08/12/2024 3:16:14 PM PDT by Sparticus (Primary the Tuesday group!)
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