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Ukraine Invades Russia and Seizes Territory
Hotair ^ | 08/08/2024 | John Sexton

Posted on 08/08/2024 8:32:45 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

The official word so far is that no one really saw this coming, not Russia and not even the United States. Ukraine's decision to invade Russia is looking like a high-risk gamble but so far it appears to be paying off.

After months of losing ground to Russia in brutal, grinding battles in Ukraine, Kyiv shifted tactics with a surprise attack into Russian territory this week that caught Moscow off guard and opened a new front in the 30-month war.

Ukrainian forces have punched through Russian border defenses and seized several settlements in fighting that was still raging on Thursday, according to Russian officials, a Ukrainian soldier and analysts. The attack triggered a state of emergency in one region in the west of Russia. Ukrainian armored columns were filmed moving along roads as far as six miles inside Russia...

The goal was to shift the fighting — and Russian soldiers and weaponry — onto Russian territory and ease the pressure of Moscow’s offensive in eastern Ukraine, a senior Ukrainian official said. He asked not to be cited by name, as Ukraine has not acknowledged its soldiers are fighting in Russia...

“They were not expecting us, and they fled wherever they could,” said a Ukrainian soldier who fought in the assault and who asked to be identified by only his first name, Oleksandr, in keeping with Ukrainian military protocol. His unit took prisoners and captured a tank, he said in a telephone interview.

Another possible goal here is to give the Ukrainians something to negotiate with. As it stands now, Russia has seized large areas of Ukrainian territory and any negotiation would probably begin with Putin's demand that those areas remain permanently under Russian control. However, if Ukraine managed to seize some towns inside Russia they would then have something to offer in a swap deal.

The Kursk offensive has put new pressure on Putin as Russian civilians have had to be evacuated under the same type of bombardment Ukrainians have endured for more than two years...

“This will give them the leverage they need for negotiations with Russia — this is what it’s all about,” the Zelensky adviser said.

Russia's top military commander claimed yesterday that Russian forces had halted the invasion but locals say that's not true.

Kursk residents, who live in the Sudzhansky District, recorded a video address to Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday asking for his help, saying he has been misinformed about the situation on the ground and the Russian Defense Ministry’s statements about things being under control are untrue.

The address was published on a local Telegram channel that is dedicated to covering the latest news out of the town of Sudzha in Kursk region, which has been under Ukrainian attack for several days.

“These lies enable the local residents to die. The Chief of the General staff recently told you that the situation is under control, but today huge furious battles are underway in the Sudzhansky and Korenevsky districts,” one of the residents said.

“Sudzha was attacked, turned into ruins in a matter of hours. Local administration wasn’t working,” another resident said.

Russian military bloggers also say the attack is worse than is being admitted thus far.

a prominent Russian military blogger who writes under the name of Rybar said Thursday that Ukrainian forces had Sudzha, the main town in the area, “practically under full control.” Videos from Sudzha, verified by The New York Times, show cars trying to leave amid sounds of gunshots and roads littered with burned vehicles and what appeared to be mines.

It remains to be seen how long this attack can continue but already Ukraine is said to have seized more than 100 kilometers of territory inside Russia, making it the biggest advance in more than a year. It has also produced video which appears to show Russian soldiers surrendering to Ukrainian forces.


The latest attack is said to have taken place 27 km from the Ukraine border.

A large fire 🔥 is occurring in Rylsk in the Kursk Region, 27km from Ukraine 🇺🇦

Reportedly, a Russian column was destroyed at night

Rylsk would be a key target for Ukraine to cut off most Russian logistics going to the border with Ukraine’s Sumy region. It’s within HIMARS range pic.twitter.com/UqXGSeg4q2— Ukraine Battle Map (@ukraine_map) August 8, 2024

Again, it may be days before we know whether this gamble paid off but as of now Ukraine has certainly surprised the Russians.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: invasion; killkillkillforpeace; mic; russia; tothelastukrainian; ukraine; welfarewar; zeepersthrilled
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Well, so much for this quote from would-be President Kamala Harris...


1 posted on 08/08/2024 8:32:45 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The situation in the Ukraine = The Ukraine is losing the war and needlessly losing soldiers. NATO knows it but is fueling the war, sending Ukrainian men to fight and die in the hopes that they can recover Ukrainian territory when NATO knows they can't.

 


2 posted on 08/08/2024 8:39:42 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: SeekAndFind

Kamala’s quotes always make me *facepalm*


3 posted on 08/08/2024 8:40:17 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: SeekAndFind

Unfortunately, Hot Air based it’s story on Fake News New York Times.
The Ukraine’s troops are already spread too thin along the front - this latest maneuver in opening a new front in the war is no problem for Russia but will stretch Ukrainian troops even thinner, as one of their commanders is warning that the line is already ‘critically think’ in a region.


4 posted on 08/08/2024 8:42:50 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote; SeekAndFind

Shades of Lee at Sharpstown in ‘62 and Gettysburg in ‘63. Of course, there was the raid/advance/feint on Washington, D.C. by Early in ‘65. How’d those workout?


5 posted on 08/08/2024 8:58:54 PM PDT by oldplayer
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To: oldplayer

1864, NOT ‘65. Sorry. Fat fingers on a small phone.


6 posted on 08/08/2024 9:01:58 PM PDT by oldplayer
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Kinda like the Battle of the Bulge. The Ukes probably won’t be able to hold on to that real-estate.


7 posted on 08/08/2024 9:23:05 PM PDT by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Considering there are not even any peace talks going on, it’s unlikely Ukraine can hold Russian territory until a deal is reached.

It’s at least a temporary embarrassment for Russia, and will require moving some Russian troops to deal with the incursion.

Russia spent a lot of resources building defensive lines in Ukraine, which stymied the Ukraine offensive.

But they left their own border unguarded.


8 posted on 08/08/2024 9:48:11 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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I wouldn’t be surprised if the Ukes attack the Kursk nuclear power plant to make it go critical and the world ends up with another Chernobyl.

Explosions Heard Just Miles Away From Russian Nuclear Power Plant
https://www.newsweek.com/explosions-kursk-nuclear-power-plant-russia-1935712


9 posted on 08/08/2024 10:03:03 PM PDT by Tom Tetroxide
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The Salient is surrounded by farmland that is tens of killometers in any direction. The Kharkiv front is a stalemate, to relieve pressure there the only option the Ukraines have is to put Kursk and the roadways near it under threat.


10 posted on 08/08/2024 10:04:12 PM PDT by chemical_boy
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“The Salient is surrounded by farmland that is tens of killometers in any direction.”

https://en-in.topographic-map.com/map-1397rr/Sudzha/?zoom=10


11 posted on 08/08/2024 10:29:02 PM PDT by kiryandil (FR Democrat Party operatives! Rally in defense of your Colombian cartel stooge Merchan!)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s time to recognize the ambitions of the residents of the Kursk People’s Republic - if they want to join Ukraine they should be able to do so by popular referendum without foreign interference from Moscow or Tehran or wherever.


12 posted on 08/08/2024 10:34:29 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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Borders are destined to change, like it or not.

Ukrainians had a chance to sort out their internal dysfunctions. Unfortunately they failed to look right across their own western border, where Slovakia and the Czech Republic worked out a bloodless separation.

That was the correct way to do it. Instead, they relied on NATO promises and opted for the violent way to solve the problem. Sad.


13 posted on 08/08/2024 10:43:48 PM PDT by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum)
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Fat chance, with the region containing a major nuclear plant and the legacy of Kurchatov (the Russian Oppenheimer). It would be like asking New Mexicans for a referendum to join Mexico, if Los Alamos was temporarily raided and occupied by cartel-sponsored militias.

However, I see you’re probably being sarcastic.

14 posted on 08/08/2024 10:53:19 PM PDT by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum)
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To: Tom Tetroxide
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Ukes attack the Kursk nuclear power plant to make it go critical and the world ends up with another Chernobyl.

The Kursk nuclear power plant is going to be shut down by 2031 anyway. The first of the four reactors has already been shut down in 2021. The Ukrainians may attack the new Kursk II plant which is almost ready to begin operation.
15 posted on 08/08/2024 10:58:20 PM PDT by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: rfp1234

I should have added, Ukraine had a chance for peaceful settlements in the 1990s (pre-Putin). Unfortunately, nobody arose with the character strength of a Vaclav Havel, it was just a succession of politicians selling themselves to the highest bidders.


16 posted on 08/08/2024 10:58:53 PM PDT by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum)
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It isn’t the same situation at all. Czechoslovakia wasn’t being invaded by a foreign power on false pretenses. It was a mutual agreement.


17 posted on 08/08/2024 11:01:28 PM PDT by Dat
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Ukraine wasn’t being invaded by a foreign power in the 1990s.


18 posted on 08/08/2024 11:31:14 PM PDT by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum)
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I think this was a brilliant move on Ukraine’s part. Just keep taking small swaths of land from Russia. Then negotiate it in such a way that for peace, Ukraine will give up their gains in Russia in exchange Russia gives up their gains.

Stop the war in 24 hours. Now, whose plan is that?


19 posted on 08/09/2024 4:03:01 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Paging Dr. Bandy Lee. Dr. Lee please pick up the white courtesy phone.)
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Oh you support the US border being violated and changed? I didn’t know.


20 posted on 08/09/2024 6:45:23 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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