‘Furious battles are underway’: Kursk residents call on Putin for help after Ukrainian incursion

CNN ^ | August 8, 2024 | Daria Tarasova, Jim Sciutto, Allegra Goodwin, Tim Lister, and Ivana Kottasová

[Alter Kaker]

Ukrainian forces are pushing further into the Kursk region of Russia, in a cross-border incursion that surprised even American officials, multiple US and Ukrainian officials tell CNN.

Ukrainian forces are comprised of a mix of Ukrainian regular and special operations units, unlike previous Ukrainian operations inside Russia that often involved undercover units and local sympathizers.

The intention, say US and Ukrainian officials, is multifaceted, in part to disrupt and demoralize Russian forces and in part to divert Russian forces away from other parts of the eastern front.

Russia claimed on Thursday to have halted a Ukrainian incursion into its territory, but later said that some battles are ongoing in the Kursk region. According to the Russian Ministry of Defense, units of the “North” group of its forces, together with the Russian Federal Security Service, the FSB, “continue to destroy Ukrainian armed forces formations in the Sudzhensky and Korenevsky districts of the Kursk region, which are directly adjacent to the Russian-Ukrainian border.” CNN cannot independently verify these claims.

Kursk residents, who live in the Sudzhansky District, recorded a video address to Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday asking for his help, saying he has been misinformed about the situation on the ground and the Russian Defense Ministry’s statements about things being under control are untrue.

The address was published on a local Telegram channel that is dedicated to covering the latest news out of the town of Sudzha in Kursk region, which has been under Ukrainian attack for several days.

“These lies enable the local residents to die. The Chief of the General staff recently told you that the situation is under control, but today huge furious battles are underway in the Sudzhansky and Korenevsky districts,” one of the residents said.

“Sudzha was attacked, turned into ruins in hours."

[Allegra]

Shut up with your screeching, asshole. Look at my post 110 again, which is a response to Post 19. It doesn’t take a genius to figure that out.

Then look at your unprovoked, hysterically screeching Post 112.

A decent person would apologize, but you short little zeeper guys aren’t big enough to do that.

I’ll give you zeepers the same screechy, insult-laden treatment you give us. I’ve learned it’s the only thing you understand. You don’t like it, do you, Boryslav?

Then stop doing it to others and learn to communicate like an adult. I don’t care if you’re gay, that doesn’t give you any excuse to behave the way you do. Grow up, Limp Wrist.

[Zhang Fei]

Ukraine ping

[Radio silence between the many units? Possible, not probable.

Cell phone usage by the troops? Much tighter than the Russians but could never be 100% Could be fully encrypted but increased usage is a big tell.]

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Telemetry can be spoofed. They know what you’re looking for, they’ll generate a constant stream of it. The Russians have mounted similar deception operations before, and Ukrainians were an integral part of those operations.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_military_deception

[Williams]

Hey faggot I saw your stupid post and pointed out it was based on nothing.

Too bad gay boy.

[Allegra]

I’m a straight female, jackass.

I was responding to someone else who posted those numbers. You freaked out and started screeching like an unhinged Boston fishwife. You never figured it out, did you? Idiot.

I love watching you get all butthurt when someone talks to you the same way you talk to others. 😂😂🤣🤣

[Zhang Fei]

Ukraine ping

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khasham]

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I don’t doubt Uncle Sam has the ability to zap any military formation in the world, no matter how elite. But these are Ukrainians armed with near end-of-life gear against a fully kitted-out Russian military, not a stack of US aircraft arrayed against a Wagner unit with little in the way of SAM or fire support. Supporting elements in Syria, of which only HIMARS and M777s are available to Ukraine, and perhaps only if they get in range of Russian glide bombs:

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[US aircraft and artillery

F-22 fighter jets
F-15E strike fighters
B-52 bombers
AC-130 gunships
AH-64 Apache attack helicopters
MQ-9 Reaper unmanned combat aerial vehicles
RQ-7B Shadow unmanned aerial vehicles
M777 howitzer artillery
M142 HIMARS rocket artillery]

[Zhang Fei]

Ukraine ping

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khasham]

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I don’t doubt Uncle Sam has the ability to zap any military formation in the world, no matter how elite. But these are Ukrainians armed with near end-of-life gear against a fully kitted-out Russian military, not a stack of US aircraft arrayed against a Wagner unit with little in the way of SAM or fire support. Supporting elements in Syria, of which only HIMARS and M777s are available to Ukraine, and perhaps only if they get in range of Russian glide bombs:

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[US aircraft and artillery

F-22 fighter jets
F-15E strike fighters
B-52 bombers
AC-130 gunships
AH-64 Apache attack helicopters
MQ-9 Reaper unmanned combat aerial vehicles
RQ-7B Shadow unmanned aerial vehicles
M777 howitzer artillery
M142 HIMARS rocket artillery]

[mass55th]

"I can’t think of anything more degenerate than mocking a people who have been attacked, and are fighting to survive."

I have more concern about the innocent American citizens who are being attacked every day, not just by illegals, terrorists and criminals pouring over the border, but by their own government who is bent on destroying this country for their own power and greed. American citizens are fighting to survive every day too.

Pardon me if I don't give a shit about Ukraine or Russia that have made politicians on both sides of the aisle very wealthy via the proxy wars they have investments in, while our hard-earned dollars are being sent to a spit of land the size of Texas that is 5,000 miles away, with no accountability as to where any of that money has gone.

[Williams]

Yeah I know you can’t stay on the subject. Shame.

[mass55th]

"Yeah I know you can’t stay on the subject. Shame."

Sorry you have a reading comprehension problem. There are classes for that.

[RedMonqey]

Probably but it’s a better option than throwing bodies into the meat grinder trenches the Russians have dug in bigley!
Russia, like alot of Western countries are about to hit a steep decline in birth rates and replacements for the war machines aren’t coming online like they’ve done in the past.
This applies to the Ukraine (and US) as well.
I don’t have a dog in this fight but I do watch it from the sidelines.

[RedMonqey]

Yeah, they could but I think they want to fight one country at a time(the big mistake both Hitler and Hirohito made)
Plus it wouldn’t look good to the puppeteers and their taxpayer saps whose credit card the ear is being financed by.

[Zhang Fei]

Ukraine ping

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khasham

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An Afghan vet looks at the issues involved in targeting the ill-fated Russian column with HIMARS. It’s possible the fire mission was accomplished with drones operated from some distance away keeping tabs on the location, direction and speed of the column.

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https://x.com/prestonstew_/status/1821894846023344245
[Artillery nerd stuff here on the Rylsk strike.

If this was HIMARS, which sounds likely as of now, this shows a very high level of competency from the Ukrainian teams. HIMARS fires GPS guided munitions which means it focuses on striking a point on the ground. That’s ideal for stationary targets but as soon as something moves that becomes a problem.

In the US we tend to use laser-guided munitions for moving targets. We can keep the laser on the target as it moves and the munition adjusts course in flight. For a GPS guided munition you have to plan for that movement ahead of time which can get complicated fast.

That means identifying the speed a column is moving and determining the time they will hit a certain point in the future if they keep that same speed. Then the fire direction folks have to determine the mission processing time and time of flight of the munition to identify a trigger point.

The trigger is when the enemy crosses a certain point, at which point mission is initiated. Remember, once a GPS guided munition is fired, it’s impact point is set. So if the trucks speed up, the impact may be behind the convoy. Slow down and the rockets hit well ahead before they get there.

Yes we do have computers that help with all of this but there’s still a ton of individual effort and planning needed to pull this off. It’s no small feat and something that even experienced HIMARS crews in the US would be challenged to execute correctly on the first attempt.]

[Zhang Fei]

Ukraine ping

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khasham

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An Afghan vet looks at the issues involved in targeting the ill-fated Russian column with HIMARS. It’s possible the fire mission was accomplished with drones operated from some distance away keeping tabs on the location, direction and speed of the column.

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https://x.com/prestonstew_/status/1821894846023344245
[Artillery nerd stuff here on the Rylsk strike.

If this was HIMARS, which sounds likely as of now, this shows a very high level of competency from the Ukrainian teams. HIMARS fires GPS guided munitions which means it focuses on striking a point on the ground. That’s ideal for stationary targets but as soon as something moves that becomes a problem.

In the US we tend to use laser-guided munitions for moving targets. We can keep the laser on the target as it moves and the munition adjusts course in flight. For a GPS guided munition you have to plan for that movement ahead of time which can get complicated fast.

That means identifying the speed a column is moving and determining the time they will hit a certain point in the future if they keep that same speed. Then the fire direction folks have to determine the mission processing time and time of flight of the munition to identify a trigger point.

The trigger is when the enemy crosses a certain point, at which point mission is initiated. Remember, once a GPS guided munition is fired, it’s impact point is set. So if the trucks speed up, the impact may be behind the convoy. Slow down and the rockets hit well ahead before they get there.

Yes we do have computers that help with all of this but there’s still a ton of individual effort and planning needed to pull this off. It’s no small feat and something that even experienced HIMARS crews in the US would be challenged to execute correctly on the first attempt.]

[Armscor38]

“Yeah, the guy who said that was a joke. I bet you thought the Russians said that.”

A guy who was promoted by Trump.

[BeauBo]

“All those Ukrainian soldiers will die in Kursk.”

Of old age?

[BeauBo]

“ and Kiev will be taken in three days”

The joke now, is that Kursk will be taken in three days. (Hat Tip: ETCM)

[Widget Jr]

Ukraine bid its time, kept is plans secret, feigned weakness, then struck. In three days Ukraine has taken more territory inside Russia's borders, than Russia has advanced for the last eighteen months.

To the Putin fan club, this is all propaganda. Ukraine is about to fall, nukes will fly, Zelensky-something-something-spam-the-thread-with-pics etc, as they've been saying for the last two years. The fact that Russia was taken by completely by surprise, has not started any real response, once again showing how bad their leadership is in creating this opportunity for Ukraine, is lost on them.

I guess some people never tire of and just enjoy being wrong.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Zhang Fei.

[Rocco DiPippo]

Youcrayne is a horribly corrupt, Eastern European shithole. I don’t want a penny of my money going to it. It’s that simple.

[Rocco DiPippo]

I read the rest of your kook nonsense. Zelensky exposed his genitals to children in a grocery store???

Perhaps you missed that disgusting video of your degenerate little "hero."

Here's the little perve in action - in front of naked children at one point. Ugh.

Only leftists and other degenerates and perverts like such filth and the perverts who engage in it. Join the club, little Willy Boy™