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Oklahoma schools in revolt over Bible mandate
The Hill via Yahoo ^ | August 4th, 2024 | Lexi Lonas

Posted on 08/04/2024 2:46:17 PM PDT by Mariner

Educators in Oklahoma are refusing a state order to incorporate the Bible into their lesson plans, setting up an inevitable showdown with the start of the school year just weeks away.

Ryan Walters, the state superintendent of public instruction, last week released guidelines to schools for how they should be integrating the Bible into classrooms, saying educators who are against the initiative “will comply, and I will use every means to make sure of it.”

The message from some schools in the state: Bring it on.

“I suspect that the first thing that will happen is he will target a specific school district or multiple school districts who he believes are not complying with his directive, those school districts will then have to make a choice as to whether to bend [to] his whim or to sue,” said Rob Miller, superintendent of Bixby Public Schools.

“And I can tell you that if Bixby was one of those schools that he selected to come after, we would file a lawsuit,” Miller told The Hill.

Walters’s guidance, which follows a June announcement of mandatory biblical curricula for grades five through 12, says that lessons on the Christian text should emphasize its historical context, literary significance and artistic and musical influence. The guidance also says a physical copy of the book should be in every classroom, along with copies of the Ten Commandments, the U.S. Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: 1a; 1stamendment; bible; firstamendment; freeexercisethereof; oklahoma
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To: Mariner

Yeah, it didn’t do any good to oppose Roe v. Wade either.


21 posted on 08/04/2024 3:13:01 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Mariner

<>The USSC has ruled multiple times on this matter.<>

Please educate Freeperdom.


22 posted on 08/04/2024 3:15:08 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Mariner

Maybe the ACLU will be out to lunch, arguing for censorship.

From your about page, it seems like you should appreciate the value of limited government. This is NOT a Federal matter. The Federal Department of Education should be dissolved.

Oklahoma should be free to educate its children the way its people want.


23 posted on 08/04/2024 3:15:24 PM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: NWFree

The atheists are coming out of the woodwork”

They have been out of the woodwork for a long time and they control much of our country


24 posted on 08/04/2024 3:16:05 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: Fledermaus

All government school systems are thoroughly infested and controlled by the American Communist Party...

It started in the late 1970s, and the Fabian Marxists have been on a rampage ever since, with the result that by the late 1980s, a generation of Marxist indoctrinated robots had taken full control of both the government-controlled school systems and most government bureaucracies...

There is no possible way to fix the education system without completely tearing it down, firing every teacher, and allowing neighborhoods to re-establish and control the public school system that was once preeminent world-wide, before the government took control...

It would take several generations to flush out the indoctrinated and re-introduce concepts of freedom & liberty...


25 posted on 08/04/2024 3:18:11 PM PDT by SuperLuminal ( Where is Samuel Adams when we so desperately need him)
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To: Mariner

Fire these Marxists


26 posted on 08/04/2024 3:19:23 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: Mariner

<>You can understand the role and significance even if you never read a single word of it.<>

Irrelevant. The republic of Oklahoma disagrees.


27 posted on 08/04/2024 3:21:07 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: SuperLuminal

Especially when every time the parents act they get harassment and investigations.


28 posted on 08/04/2024 3:22:01 PM PDT by Fledermaus (We Are Now In A Civil War!)
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To: Mariner

Here’s the problem:

“Educators in Oklahoma are refusing...”

What else are Educators refusing to do?

What are Educators adamant about doing that goes against the rights of parents who are very concerned about what their children are being taught or persuaded into adopting?

Certain lifestyle choices that really shouldn’t be part of any curriculum for a child perhaps?


29 posted on 08/04/2024 3:22:23 PM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: Mariner

If this actually had any legs, I wouldn’t want public school teachers anywhere near teachings of Christianity or the Bible, even if it were simply for purposes of “history”.


30 posted on 08/04/2024 3:27:10 PM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: Iceclimber58

Or Alabama. We might be worse. I like Oklahoma. Home of US ARMY FIELD ARTILLERY.


31 posted on 08/04/2024 3:28:23 PM PDT by wgmalabama (Censored!)
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To: Mariner

I am in favor of teaching the Bible as a vital part of our Western culture. Biblical allusions are all over our literature, our language, and our art and music. Even guys such as Pete Seeger and John Mellencamp make biblical references in some of their songs. No student of any religious tradition, or none, is going to be harmed by becoming a literate and culturally-educated person (assuming that those are still goals of our school system.) I am just concerned that there are enough teachers qualified to teach it this way.

Out of respect for non-Christians and, and taking into account real differences among Christians, I think any dogmatic or doctrinal matter needs to be avoided. If parents want to expose their children to that, they can read the Bible at home with them or take the kids to the church of their choice, where there still are people who are trained and qualified to teach that.


32 posted on 08/04/2024 3:28:48 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (God save the United States!)
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To: Mariner

Our sons went to public HS and I don’t remember whether it was history or literature but they did study the OT. KJV of course.


33 posted on 08/04/2024 3:31:04 PM PDT by Mercat
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To: Empire_of_Liberty; Jacquerie

“Oklahoma should be free to educate its children the way its people want.”

You confuse the way things ought to be with the way things are.

Even the 5th Circuit will put and end to this...if it gets that far. The case may not even make it out of state.


34 posted on 08/04/2024 3:36:37 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Perhaps you are right. I do hate paying taxes to raise reprobates who hate my guts, though.

I guess the Constituition only promised limited government for as long as we could keep it.


35 posted on 08/04/2024 3:46:21 PM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: Mariner

It will go to the Scotus and fall like Roe v. Wade.

Like Roe, there is no Constitutional basis behind Hugo Black’s wall of separation nonsense.


36 posted on 08/04/2024 3:47:38 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Mariner

As long as the educators walk a fine line and don’t make a flat statement that Christianity must be believed as a religion, I don’t see anything wrong with teaching it as history. They’re free to say that THEY believe in it, but not that it’s truth or that anyone else SHOULD believe. Just history is fine. Truly can’t see anything wrong as long as teachers control themselves.

But if it violates the Constitution, then no.


37 posted on 08/04/2024 3:48:10 PM PDT by mairdie (Trump (I Wil Win) - Pavarotti's Nessun Dorma https://youtu.be/MigUKGKr-nQ)
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To: SaveFerris

...Peter, Paul and all the apostles and all the early Christians were certain that Jesus’s return was imminent. We’ve been waiting for 2,000 years now and every year seems like His return is guaranteed. “Foolish is the man who longs for the day of the LORD! ... for that day will be darkness and destruction, not light.” - Amos 5:18


38 posted on 08/04/2024 3:50:49 PM PDT by JJBookman (Democrats = Party of stubble )
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To: Mariner

We the people of Oklahoma elected this superintendent. The “educators” are required to teach the curriculum as put forth by the superintendent. If they don’t like it, tough. They didn’t care that parents didn’t like some of the crap they taught, before. 79% of Oklahomans are Christian.


39 posted on 08/04/2024 3:53:11 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: JJBookman

Certainly don’t want to see Armageddon (which could be called that Day of the Lord - same for that starting with the 7-year peace deal.

However, ignoring that these things will happen will certainly not make them go away.

Which is what the majority of the world tries to do.


40 posted on 08/04/2024 3:54:41 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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